On this episode I'm joined by vocalist/guitarist Ugly Tomorrow and drummer Numb$kull of the Canadian duo, never easy.

We discuss their second album 'i still care', the meaning behind the cover artwork, the lessons they learnt from their debut album, their 2000s era visuals, being an independent band, and loads more.

A new episode will be released every Thursday.

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