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Complex environments exist in commercial organizations and the federal government. In a typical fashion, humans resist change until an incident force restructuring. In this case, the change of design will be costly.

During today’s interview, Nick Pesce says that today’s systems are burdened to such an extent that structural change should start now, when it is easy and less expensive, and then wait for an incident that will cause change.

Both guests, Nick Pesce and Don Lamb, have experience in federal government change management. They work for the well-respected MITRE, home of the ATT&CK framework.

As a result, they can look at a systemic problem and see the solution.

Their report, Recommendations for Creating Cross-Agency Enterprise Design Specifications, details ways to make this change. They also detail user stories and use cases and how to manage requirements and proofs of concept.

Their argument goes that when combined with understanding mission objectives, the existing information silos in the federal government can be overcome.