What happens when a cybersecurity team designs controls without asking the business what they need? And what role exists specifically to prevent that? Let's find out with our guests Brian Shea and Maggie Amato, former Business Information Security Officers at Salesforce. Your hosts are Kip Boyle, CISO with Cyber Risk Opportunities, and Jake Bernstein, Partner with K&L Gates.

Brian Shea's LinkedIn profile -- https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianshea/

Maggie Amato's LinkedIn profile -- https://www.linkedin.com/in/maggie-amato-021624164/