Get the tissues and prepare to play the Jon Lemay Drinking Game. The guys are joined by Jon’s classmate Sophie van Waardenberg (a poet and MFA candidate at Syracuse) and her partner Gracie Francis (a pianist and Master's student at Juilliard) to talk about Sufjan’s 2015 classic album Carrie & Lowell. They talk Christian upbringings, lying about liking certain music in order to impress crushes, and theories about Sufjan’s sexuality—and Pat can’t help himself but sing along. 

Check out Sophie on Instagram and Twitter (@sophrosevw), as well as on Letterboxd (@sophievw)! Check out Gracie on Twitter and Instagram (@graceh0pp3r)!