In our 25th episode, Marcus and Nora do what any self-respecting pair of exhausted optimists would do: celebrate by looking back at all the chaos we somehow survived together.

They revisit the best, wildest, and most unexpectedly therapeutic moments from In the Meanwhile: the mutual-aid revelations, the metanarrative nerd-outs, the Gaza truth-telling, the working-class rage, the billionaire clownery, and the profound relief of finding out we're not the only ones screaming into the void.

There's also: a pop quiz no one studied for, a democracy pep talk from Mama Green (queen), a brief interlude dragging Senate Democrats (deserved), and proof that they've technically out-podcasted Barack Obama. Plus, their trademark Eight Ounces of Joy, future dream guests, and a reminder that community, humor, and righteous indignation are the only things getting any of us through this timeline.

Mentioned in the episode:

Democrats and the end of the shutdown | Katie Wilson | #11: Katie Wilson | Seattle & King County voter turnout | #3: Civic Bravery (ICE Detentions) | #5: Dean Spade | #16: Tricia Rose | #17: Douglas Rushkoff | #8: Gabriel Teodros | #13: Dr. Daudi Abe | #21: Byron Sigcho Lopez | #10: Francesca Fiorentini | Doing the Reading | ICE Signal chat data leak | Podchaser | Guest Rant: Now is the Time to Hope, and Vote

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