In this episode of the Stained Glass Kids Podcast, Yancy talks with Patrick Snow, about how his pursuit of perfection and people pleasing was formed by the expectations of life as a PK. He walks us through the breakthrough he had while realizing not even Jesus’ perfection made everyone happy and how that helped him let go. This is a super conversation about preteen ministry, joy, and barren wombs. These two friends and partners in ministry reflect on the lessons of hard seasons and how to walk with broken PK’s to find healing.

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