In this podcast Amadon DellErba discusses anarchy vs. spiritual hierarchy.  In response to the corruption we see in politics and governments today many youth embrace anarchy, but does it work?  Recognizing the need for change, in 2011 and 2012 Amadon and the Global Change Media team attended many of the Occupy protests happening around the US with Gabriel of Urantia's Spiritualution movement.  Amadon shares the story of a protest in Phoenix that went from an angry run-in with an anarchist cell who thought they were cops to marching with and interviewing Reverend Jesse Jackson.