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If you’re building a business right now, you’ve probably felt it, marketing is shifting fast.
In this episode, serial entrepreneur and author Gary Nealon joins us to break down what AI, GPTs, and changing search behavior really mean for small businesses. We talk about why traditional SEO is no longer enough, how brands can show up inside AI-generated answers, and why platforms like Reddit are becoming a powerful trust layer for buyers.
Gary also shares his concept of “downtasking”, a simple but powerful framework for assigning dollar values to your daily tasks so you can stop doing low-value work and focus on what actually scales. From leveraging virtual assistants to building custom GPTs inside your company, this conversation is packed with practical ideas founders can use immediately.
We also dive into: • Why so many businesses plateau around $750K–$1M in revenue • The danger of falling in love with your product instead of your customer • Why failing fast beats waiting for perfect • How data can reveal who your real buyer actually is
If you feel stretched thin, stuck in the weeds, or unsure how AI fits into your growth strategy, this episode will challenge your thinking in the best way.
Listen in and ask yourself: What should I stop doing this week?
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If you’re building a business right now, you’ve probably felt it, marketing is shifting fast.
In this episode, serial entrepreneur and author Gary Nealon joins us to break down what AI, GPTs, and changing search behavior really mean for small businesses. We talk about why traditional SEO is no longer enough, how brands can show up inside AI-generated answers, and why platforms like Reddit are becoming a powerful trust layer for buyers.
Gary also shares his concept of “downtasking”, a simple but powerful framework for assigning dollar values to your daily tasks so you can stop doing low-value work and focus on what actually scales. From leveraging virtual assistants to building custom GPTs inside your company, this conversation is packed with practical ideas founders can use immediately.
We also dive into: • Why so many businesses plateau around $750K–$1M in revenue • The danger of falling in love with your product instead of your customer • Why failing fast beats waiting for perfect • How data can reveal who your real buyer actually is
If you feel stretched thin, stuck in the weeds, or unsure how AI fits into your growth strategy, this episode will challenge your thinking in the best way.
Listen in and ask yourself: What should I stop doing this week?

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