Author David Keenan and Martin Shaw are true kindred spirits. Steeped in the music scene as a journalist and drummer respectively, their experiences have many magical parallels that they explore in this engrossing meeting of minds. From punk rock to poetry, they discuss writing, art and music, cultural amnesia and sonic spirituality. Dive in.

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A huge thanks to Ben Addicott for helping to produce this podcast

Violin music by John Matthias

Smoke Hole is published by Chelsea Green Publishing UK