Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Jowan Joseph. Chris and Jowan discuss the importance of effective communication, role adaptation, and the psychological aspects of crisis situations. The discussion emphasizes the need for proactive preparedness and building trust within teams to navigate challenges effectively. [Aug 18, 2025]

00:00 - Intro

00:32 - Jowan Joseph Intro

00:44 - New Format

01:24 - Intro Links:

- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:08 - Tabletop...Child's Play

04:36 - Phase One: Assigning Roles

07:11 - Going Rogue

08:05 - Measuring Tone

09:22 - A Few More Twists

09:57 - Some Heads Are Gonna Roll

10:41 - Communication Breakdown

12:17 - Post Mortem

13:44 - Alignment at Scale

14:57 - Divide and Conquer... Together

17:31 - Proactive Instead of Reactive

20:21 - The Communication Gap

21:22 - Trust Factor

22:15 - Wrap Up & Outro

- www.social-engineer.com

- www.innocentlivesfoundation.org