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Ari Gronich 0:00  

Has it occurred to you that the systems we live by are not designed to get results? We pay for procedures instead of outcomes, focusing on emergencies rather than preventing disease and living a healthy lifestyle. For over 25 years, I've taken care of Olympians Paralympians a list actors in fortune 1000 companies, if I did not get results, they did not get results. I realized that while powerful people who control the system wants to keep the status quo. If I were to educate the masses, you would demand change. So I'm taking the gloves off and going after the systems as they are. Join me on my mission to create a new tomorrow as I chat with industry experts, elite athletes, thought leaders and government officials about how we activate our vision for a better world. We may agree, and we may disagree, but I'm not backing down. I'm Ari Gronich and this is create a new tomorrow podcast.

Welcome to a special live edition of creating a new tomorrow. I'm your host, Ari Gronich. And I have with me, this amazing writer and nutritionist, Kelly Haugh. Kelly, why don't you tell the crowd the audience a little bit about yourself? 

Kelly Haugh 1:25  

Hi, I'm Kelly. And I'm a certified health and wellness coach. And I really specialize in helping people with stress and anxiety, got health issues and how they're all connected. I love hiking and being out in nature. 

Ari Gronich 1:43  

Cool. So how did you get involved in the health industry and especially in the nutritional side?

So I'm going back a little ways how what kind of seal video for me was really my daughter who has autism. My daughter is she just turned 14. And so it's basically been a 12 and a half 13 year Trek. With her with finding out she had leaky gut dysbiosis a lot of gut issues going on, that were affecting her behaviorally, as well, as you know, she just didn't feel very good.

So how did you find out that there was a connection between her emotions and how she was feeling and acting, and gut health.

So when we first learned that she had the gut health issues going on, along with her autism, you know, autism was new to us at the time, we didn't we weren't familiar, but we found out kind of quickly then that really most kids with autism have a lot of gut issues. And whether it's the chicken in the egg, you never know. But, um, so we really researched and thought out what could we do for her to help improve her health and her behavior? More than just, she, she's kind of stuck with this.

So what were the benefits that you guys have seen based on changing diets and plans with her.

So I'm definitely behavior she will be, you know, in a much better mood, as well as she sleeps better. And also, she has a seizure disorder. And when we did like a modified keto diet for her and added in some supplements that were really good for gut health, once her got was more in order, though seizures really started going down, which was great, because they're terrifying. 

Yeah, I can imagine. I can imagine. So what is it that you really want people to know about? When it comes to, you know, you as a health coach, as a person who deals with nutrition on a daily basis? What is it? What's the most important thing for people to know?

Um, you know, there's many very important things. But the thing that pops out in my head, when you say the most important, I would think, you know, get off that standard American diet, because that is really bad. It is the saddest standard American and it's sad for you, it really it makes you feel sluggish and gross. And, you know, you can't think clearly brain fog, all of that, um, and so we, you know, adding in, I always like to help people add in more and more good healthy foods, and then start, you know, slowly taking away the things that aren't that good for them. But that's a really important piece. And a lot of people don't realize that, you know, that can really affect their mood, and affect, you know, how well their brains functioning.

Absolutely. So, what about the standard American diet? I mean, like, think about it, you're, if you're talking to people who are eating that stuff, Hundred American diet on a regular basis, they probably don't really know what exactly about that plan and about that system is so broken. So why don't you enlighten the audience about what about that system is really broken?

Right? Okay, so I would say the first thing would be like chemicals, chemical added preservatives, additives, food coloring food dyes. neurotoxins really basically for for people. And so we're talking that it's, you know, you're talking, you know, Doritos, and nacho cheese, Doritos, and, you know, pop and all of those things and, you know, really, in my opinion, a diet pop is even worse than regular pop, if you really want some pop out a little bit of regular instead of adding it even more chemicals and additives.

Yeah, I would even go further and say find the soda if you're gonna have soda, that is either got cane sugar, cane sugar, or fruit, or some some keto sodas, I guess that are coming to the market that have no sugar, but they're not artificial sweeteners either.

Kelly Haugh 6:18  

Yeah, even stevia, stevia soda, you know, no, we want to steer away from all that. But if it's somebody who you know, they drink a six pack of coke a day, you're gonna be hard pressed to tell them, you have to stop having that completely, you're gonna have to kind of back them off, and like you say, then you can replace it a little bit with some of these other things. So um, you know, that's one thing, one aspect, right? So the chemicals, the preservatives, all those other things you're adding into your body that your body doesn't want, with the standard American diet, and of course, loads of carbs, you know, you're not getting more protein, more plants, all that type of thing.

Ari Gronich 6:57  

So talking about the fact that there are no essential carbs. Because I think that people think, especially based on the food pyramid that they've been indoctrinated like, yeah, that carbs are the most important thing in your diet. Right? So the fact that there's no such thing as an essential carb might be an interesting fact for young people. 

Sure, right. Because if you think of is that standard pyramid that we've seen for ages, right, really, that things should be tipped upside down, you know, basically, yeah, carbs in the form of leafy vegetables, and, you know, sweet potatoes and things like that. Those are fine and dandy. But yeah, lots of the white all the white stuff, the refined carbs, you know, for gluten, and then just turn straight to sugar in your body.

Right. So I've talked a lot about gluten. And the fact that gluten itself is a poison, and you may not be gluten intolerance, to the level that some people are, but everybody is in, you know, it gets an inflammatory response. Absolutely. So why don't we talk a little bit about gluten and what they do grains and what they do and why the fallacy is there, that grains are so important.

Right? So I love that, um, I did actually talk about that a little bit in my book about gluten. And, you know, it makes some people sad even hear that, but it's really not good for anybody, right? I mean, you know, yeah, some people are way more tolerant of it. But as it builds up in your system, it's really not good for you. It's not good for anybody, and especially because anymore, you know, most any wheat, therefore, gluten, you're gonna get a hold up is gonna be GMO. So you're gonna have the ice of fate in there, follow pesticides, you know, very bad for your whole digestive tract.

Right. So most people don't really understand what gli sulfate is or what roundup does to seafood and what it means what genetically modified means really, they don't understand, necessarily, the whole nature of what genetically modified is, and what the difference between hybridization and genetically modified. So can you talk a little bit about that? 

Kelly Haugh 9:22  

Sure. Um, so yeah, and the GMO in the seeds themselves, they genetically modify those actual seeds. And so even though they may not have already sprayed something on it, as it's grown, they haven't come back by and sprayed, it's already in there. You are not getting rid of that. It's a part of the plant. And so no amount of rinsing it is going to get rid of it. And so that gets in your body and it's very hard for your body to get rid of it. And of course, it's a neurotoxin, as well, as well as it's bad on the digestive tract and it can cause cancer.

Ari Gronich 10:00  

Yeah, so you know, I like to get into the history of certain things. And the history of that company is an interesting history, they were responsible for things like the Manhattan Project. But even prior to that, in the United States, they were responsible for the gas that went into the gas chambers, right. And during the Holocaust, they were responsible for the, for Agent Orange during the war and mustard gas. Right. So they were actually the chemical manufacturers. And now they pretty much own something around 90% of all the food in the entire world, the entire the entire world. And I believe that they just last year merged, were allowed to merge with Bayer, who is a pharmaceutical company, which is a pharmacy, one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world. And Bayer happens to be now also it's a German company, as well. And so almost all of our pharmaceutical products that are designed to treat us when we're sick, right, are made by the same company that's making our food, which is making us sick. Right? Right. Absolutely. So audience, I want you to really kind of get this, how things connect, and how things tied tie down, because this is a really important fact, it is for people to understand is that their entire food chain is being controlled by one company that also controls a major percentage of the pharmaceutical market. Right.

Right. Because they can get you with their chemicals one way or another.

It's definitely a way to continue on the cycle of business. Yeah, so wasn't that illegal for for companies to conglomerate it that way? Yeah. Yeah.

You know, but deep pockets. Unfortunately,

this, is this true? Yeah. Yeah, this is true. So. So what would you say to the average American or even, you know, consumer worldwide, that's eating this kind of food? And may not know what it is? Or why it is? What would be the things that they can look at to tell if the food they're eating is safe? Or if it's gonna make them sick? Even if it's a long term sickness?

Right? Okay. So my answer on that offhand is twofold. One would be every year, the Environmental Working Group, e wg does a dirty dozen clean 15, which is a really good list for people to go off if like I because I have a lot of clients that will say, well, we can't afford to feed our whole family organic food and things like that. So if you at least look at this list, it's helpful that way, the dozen that year that are the worst you can stay away from and be sure you get organic. And then the clean 15 is basically Yeah, there might be some residual pesticide, etc. But it's a lot less. So it's a better, better way to go. For people who aren't don't go totally organic. And the other thing would be, there's the things to look for that are mostly GMO, corn, soy, wheat, sugar beet, all here in the US at least, those are very, you know, highly GMO,

right? What's the difference between sugar beets and beet, 

sugar beet, they actually get the get the sugar out of it, a beet is actually grown in the ground. And primarily it's, you know, gonna be the red beat or the golden beat. That's totally

gotcha. So, you know, when you hear beet sugar, you don't have to be worried about juicing if you're, say a raw foodist. Right? We use a lot of beets. Yeah,

beets themselves are great. Yes.

So you know, don't get those too big. So

it does sound confusing. Yeah, I understand that. Right. So those are a couple ways. You know, just to know like, in general, these crops tend to be bad. So especially, you know, it's back to the gluten so that was not good anyway, but if you're going to eat wheat, you want to have organic wheat, you know, and especially if you don't have the refined wheat like you have the actual just stone ground wheat. That's what Way better for you, um, then I'm not promoting it because I don't think it's great. But I'm just saying, it's easier for some people to think, well, I can't possibly do all of this. And so they just want to give up. So you want to kind of highlight, like, if you start with these things, it's going to be the most helpful to you and easy for you to do.

Right. So here's my problem with with grains. And this, this is a general issue with with grains is that let's, let's say, take the scenario that we're taking a mineral supplement and trying to get the minerals right in our bodies. And then we eat a whole grain brand, because it's marketed as, as healthy or healthier alternative. Right? Right. So those grains absorb minerals, right? And then pass them through you to where you don't get to absorb the minerals, because they're very spongy. If you look at look at, look at a piece of, you know, Crumb Cake, any of those kinds of things. They're kind of spongy cakes, breads, pastas, spongy, spongy, absorbs it's absorbent, right? Right, we can, we can all kind of get with that. And so if you're taking a mineral supplement, while you are also eating breads, and glutens, and carbs, and grains, you're literally flushing down all the money that you're putting into those mineral supplements. You're flushing that down the toilet. Right? Right. Yeah. So this is just one of the reasons why, you know, if you're, if you have mineral deficiencies of any kind, like iron, and you're anemic, if you know you have insulin issues, if you have, those are all because of mineral deficiencies. And so eating the bread doesn't necessarily equal a good, healthy, right response to the other things that you might be doing. It actually might harm that response, even if you're not getting a massive inflammatory response where you recognize it. Correct?

Yeah, I agree. And especially to with the, if you're saying somebody who has a blood sugar issue or an insulin issue, they really, they shouldn't be eating bread anyway. You know, that's not that's very counterproductive. Right. So, you know, on many levels, yeah.

Right. So, you know, give it give a few recommendations on what it is that you'd like to see happen within the systems. Like, if you're talking to a government employee right now, which I love talking to government employees that have control over whether they're about to be able to put more chemicals in our environment. Our last slide? Yeah, right. So I love talking to the government officials. But let's say we're talking to some government officials right now. And we're giving them some solutions to the ills of bad health and the systems of agriculture that we're going through currently, right? What are some solutions that you would suggest?

why that's a big one, isn't it? Absolutely.

Unknown Speaker 18:31  

I know.

Ari Gronich 18:33  

What I don't know is if they're gonna listen in, it does depend on right. Who is it? What What is their lobby toward? What's their propensity?

Unknown Speaker 18:45  

But what

Kelly Haugh 18:46  

what do I think could be done? I mean, definitely don't let anything else get added. That is bad for us. Absolutely. And I don't know, because it is such a deep pocket issue, if you're gonna get that reversed on the whole GMOs and the whole seeds and everything like that. That's tough. But maybe they could be touting organic foods, maybe they could be that could even be part of, if not part of the new food pyramid, even if it could just be they could, at least as a public service message, talk about chemicals in the food and you know, eating organic or things like that. That wouldn't be that hard for them to do. But I don't know that they have a slant to that.

Ari Gronich 19:32  

Right. So I'm an idealist. So I believe that anything is possible. Sure. As long as enough people force it to become possible. Right, right. And so the things that I'm looking at being possible, for instance, let's say is hydroponic gardens. Oh, yeah. local communities. Absolutely. Because you can control what is put in. You don't need the pesticides right. Because it's a controlled environment, you can grow it year round. You put it into farmer's markets, you put it into high schools, you put it into elementary schools. And now all of a sudden you have free labor because you're teaching the kids how to grow food. Right? Right. So this is just one of many possible solutions. If you're in a big city, there are no skyscraper gardens.

Oh, yeah. Which is really exciting

that feat that can feed an entire city, what it needs because you can create, you know, different levels with different kinds of foods, a lot of variety. And it's all Hydro and aeroponic. This is a solution to big cities. My favorite. I think my favorite one is in parks, public parks. There's land, right, right. So every other tree instead of being an oak tree, or a pine tree, which really doesn't do a lot for our health, right. Or for our food supply. Apple Tree, orange tree face, you know, different trees inside a park. That's your real fast food now.

Unknown Speaker 21:08  

Yeah, right. Yeah, you could pick

Ari Gronich 21:09  

the fruit off the tree. You know, if you're homeless, you have plenty of food to eat. Right. So problem isn't solved the homeless issue, but now, at least gives them some food. Right? You can. I was thinking like, I want to create a mass movement of people throwing berry seeds all over the freeways. You know, the size of the freeways cover new fruit? Yeah, why wouldn't that be cool? You know, a couple of handfuls of berries. And you go on your way. All nicely energized. Yeah. Yeah, there are so many solutions. And yeah,

Kelly Haugh 21:52  

it's not like that couldn't happen. Right. It's not like this couldn't be a thing.

Ari Gronich 21:57  

Right. It's not like it would be very difficult. It would cost a lot of money. I'm talking to you, governors, Senators, government officials. If you're in charge you're being talked to right now. Yeah. All right. Well, wait. Yeah.

Kelly Haugh 22:13  

I mean, yeah, like you say, it's not gonna take that much. It's certainly not that much money. Definitely not even labor. I mean, and you could probably get the whole community to go out and do the actual planting and everything

Ari Gronich 22:26  

right. And especially if you're feeding that look at it from a different angle. you're feeding the community in which you're living in. Right, right. So it's not being transported as much. Yeah.

Kelly Haugh 22:40  

That's really good.

Ari Gronich 22:40  

Right. So we're singing gas, we're saving energy and electricity and other kinds of units of things that we wouldn't normally be wasting. Right, right. Yeah. So what else can we do? Just let's give them solutions to the issues because most people know that there's an issue, even if they don't know what that issue is, right. I think they know that there's an issue. Right? That's our health with the world, you know, with our food with with those things. Government, you know, if you wanted to save money, you could probably stop subsidizing food that's unhealthy. Because most people, I don't think people realize that they're being fed food, cheap food, that is actually a lot more expensive than some of the other food that you could be eating here. Right. But it's cheap in the stores, because your tax dollars are being taken for them. Absolutely. I

Kelly Haugh 23:41  

think people don't know that at all.

Ari Gronich 23:43  

So they don't know about that. You're being

Kelly Haugh 23:46  

lightened, you're, you're paying for it one way or another. And definitely at the end, you're paying for it with bad health. Absolutely, yeah. Which, of course, is gonna cost you a lot more in the long run.

Ari Gronich 23:59  

Absolutely. So if I were to take a step back now, and I'm just going to spotlight on you and your background, what you've been able to do, and what your message really is two people, what would what would you say? Well, so

Kelly Haugh 24:16  

I mean, my main message I not to give people hope, and I'm out to help people know that there is something more they can do. I always want people to be asking, what else can I do? Because that and throughout my life's journey and the things I've been through, which has been many very major things that most people might go through one but I've been through like for what else can I do? That question literally saved my life and the life of my daughter, figuring out what else can I do and not just take that blanket? Here's all there is? You can't You can't accept that as the answer. So if you have an issue, an underlying health issue, autoimmune issue, chronic inflammation, chronic stress, anxiety, get issues, any of that it doesn't matter what your particular issue is. There's always something different, better and more that can be done. Absolutely,

Ari Gronich 25:15  

absolutely. So let's let's drill by symptoms if you're experiencing, if you're experiencing foggy brain, bloating, gas, crazy heat, and then cool, your temperatures deregulated. If you're experiencing symptoms of diabetes, insulin resistant, heart disease, chronic pain, YouTube could be affected by the sad diet.

Kelly Haugh 25:48  

It's true.

Ari Gronich 25:53  

Let's talk about like brain fog and things like that. I've been told recently that they're trying to reclassify Alzheimer's and dementia as type three diabetes a little bit because this is affecting. My grandmother had Alzheimer's, she didn't know who I was for the last I don't know, maybe almost 10 years of rice. Yeah. couldn't speak English anymore. She can only speak Spanish. I mean, she had no idea who she was, other than the 16 year old and before girl. So it's very personal for me. You know, how, how would you suggest somebody who's experiencing dementia and Alzheimer's and brain fog? In general, they're going to work and they're gone? What am I supposed to be doing to her? You know, what would you suggest as a change to their, to their plan that they can do? Right mmediately to start feeling different and better.

Kelly Haugh 26:52  

So I'm on the lighter note of brain fog versus dementia, Alzheimer's, all of those types of things, because there's a heavy, heavier issue, although the same types of things absolutely affect it. But somebody's just experiencing brain fog, you know, something they could do would be number one, cut out sugar. And then number two, cut out the refined carbs that turned straight to sugar in your body, because that all leads to brain fog. Another thing is good, you know, having enough good healthy bacteria in your gut versus unhealthy bacteria? Because that's dysbiosis when you have too much bad bacteria. So adding in better. How did they do that? How did they do that? They can do it by particular strains of probiotics with prebiotics with them, as well as fermented foods which have pre and probiotic foods in them like kimchi and sauerkraut. Kimchi sauerkraut, yep. All right. Well, count kombucha. There's, there's a variety of a variety. And I teach fermented foods classes that people can make them at home on their own and realize it's not that hard to do, which is really cool. But those also eating, you know, a lot of the good plants and getting a big variety, because you're getting some pre and probiotics in that way. And especially if it's organic, and you don't want to wash the crap out of that organic food. You actually want some of that good soil on there, because it's actually good for you. And you're adding in good bacteria that way.

Ari Gronich 28:28  

Yeah. Remember when you were a kid and used to have mud pies in the mud pies were tasted like dirt? Because it was actual mud?

Kelly Haugh 28:35  

Because it was dirt. Yeah, it

Ari Gronich 28:36  

was good for you that actually your immune system really well. strength. Absolutely. Right. Yeah, this whole thing. This whole thing about being anti bacteria, anti virus is a bad word these days, but anti bacteria anti virus. These are things that we weren't fungus creating penicillin. Right? It was really good for you, you know, magic mushrooms, psilocybin that helps people with PTSD with emotional trauma release with all kinds of, you know, health issues, right. So this is something that we've been taught to avoid. Right. But we love mushrooms in our in our

Kelly Haugh 29:25  

mushroom mask. Right, exactly.

Ari Gronich 29:26  

So it's not avoid these things. It's it's actually these are the things that help keep us healthy that they've been telling us the system has been telling us we need joy.

Kelly Haugh 29:38  

Right? Right. Yeah, when everything is just so sterile and you have your air actually getting rid of your good bacteria as well then you don't want to do that.

Ari Gronich 29:48  

Right. Even though I was told recently. mouthwash. It's got that high alcohol content in the mouthwash. It'll kill all the bacteria in the back of your mouth. Right now. That good bacteria that's in the back of your mouth. Is the stuff helping to keep you from getting heart disease?

Kelly Haugh 30:08  

Right? Yes. And it also, that is actually what also keeps you from getting actually sick. You know, you want all the good bacteria. There. Yeah, when I wiped

Ari Gronich 30:19  

it out, right, so then how can we get the good bacteria and get clean smelling breath instead of garlicky, oniony

Kelly Haugh 30:28  

mushroomy? Well, you know, minty is fine, you just don't want to have the alcohol base. And yet fluoride isn't good for you either. Just you know, dance baking soda, you can use a little essential oil, you know, you're actually getting your mouth clean, but not wiping out your little activated charcoal. charcoal, right? MCT oil is great. It's I you know, but in a good way, anti bacterial, fungal, viral, all of that. But it's not going to kill off all your good stuff. So

Ari Gronich 30:58  

yeah, these are these are really amazing gems, I just want the audience to really get the grasp of what they're getting here. Because really, we're getting into the nitty gritties of food choices and lifestyle choices that people can can make. Absolutely in order to really alter their health. Because, you know, I know for me and my story, I went so many years, trying so many things. And having Dr. Google one search after another Right, right. Yeah. And so many people are doing the same thing. Absolutely. They're listening to Dr. Google who changes, you know, tune every, like week or two. Yeah,

Kelly Haugh 31:47  

absolutely. Right. And one doctor, Google is way over here. And one is way over here. And so then it leaves the average person not knowing what am I supposed to believe? And part of my whole thing is I've waited through all this shit, so you don't have to?

Ari Gronich 32:04  

Well, thank you very much. Yeah, I appreciate you doing that. wasn't what I was gonna do. Not a fan of wading through what I what I am a fan of is getting to the nitty gritty of this stuff. You know, like, what's a really good argument for eating grass fed organic beef and, and meats in general, rather than eating? The standard meat diet? Yeah, that's right. And just one of those based on what you're saying is the antibiotics that they're giving the cows are then going into us killing our good bacteria. Absolutely. Right. So talk a little bit about how that

Kelly Haugh 32:53  

how that wreaks havoc, it wreaks havoc on your whole digestive system and your gut health. Again, you want all the good bacteria, you can have just well shown that bad bacteria. Yeah, the cows literally, that are the feedlot, they actually have a thing right in your ear, and it's an injectable antibiotic that they get this slow dose of the entire time they're there.

Ari Gronich 33:18  

people realize that so it's basically like, diabetics, insulin

Kelly Haugh 33:23  

pump, that it's an A, and A biotic pump in their air that they get the whole time that they're there. And so, you know, even if he might have been out on a pasture, you know, for part of his life, he's now been moved here and he's here a good bit of time. Just taking in all these antibiotics. Now they're gonna, you know, slaughter him and now you're you are definitely ingesting those antibiotics,

Ari Gronich 33:49  

right. So that will say you are what you eat is not quite true. Because you're not a cow. But you will eat one if you eat one.

Kelly Haugh 33:59  

Yeah,

it is you are what you eat, but you are what you are eating, ate as well. Eating. Your plants are sitting, right either way you are getting whatever that is as well. And it's not just, oh, well, that's fine. It was in him. It doesn't matter. No, you're literally taking that in and now you are consuming that. Yeah. So I was

Ari Gronich 34:23  

listening to a paleontologist once and we were at a Dinosaur Park. And I think it was my son's birthday. And somebody asked a question about the dinosaurs that are, you know, meat eaters versus those that are vegetarian and, you know, and the guy said, well, the dinosaur who eats the vegetarian gets all the nutrients of the vegetarian. You know, dinosaur, because they're, they're getting what that dinosaur ate, right? Yeah. So even if they never eaten Plant, they're getting all the plant nutrients through through the meat that was really fascinating because a lot of people, you know, especially in this culture that we've been moving towards, which is vegan vegetarian, which I don't think is is a bad thing in and of itself, right? It's a necessary thing, because we absolutely never ate the amount of meat that we're eating as a nation daily, if I eat meat a couple times a week, that's a good amount that's kind of more on par. Right, right with our traditional diet. So we're not supposed to be eating three meals a day of meat. But if we're eating meat that's not been raised on a pasture eating grass, but has been raised in a feed water, one of these places where they got the antibiotics, you're literally killing your gut, oh, which is killing your brain, right? Kill your brain to kill your gut?

Kelly Haugh 36:00  

Well, because your good gut bacteria absolutely sense. And you'll see your brain all day long, you know, got two brain brain to gut but more got two brain. And so you know, a lot of people don't know about that more and more people have at least heard of it, but highly important. And like what you said earlier about the dementia and everything. When we are consuming the chemicals, lots of gluten, all of that affects your brain. And all the other, you know, the chemicals are very neurotoxic, very bad to the brain.

Ari Gronich 36:35  

Yeah, absolutely. That is that is for sure. So neurotoxins, let me let me just kind of get to that, because we talked about fluoride when we were talking about toothpaste, and I just want you know, the history of fluoride in water supply. Because in water supply, they know absolutely 100% that it does nothing for teeth, and only worse for teeth if it's directly applied. And even that is questionable as far as the form of fluoride that's used, right. But fly was used originally by Hitler's you know, Army in order to control the soldiers. Because the soldiers would be a lot more suggestible to their orders, when their neurotoxin level was lowered, basically made their cognitive function and critical thinking skills drop and diminish so that they'd be more easily considered cheap. Yeah, I know, that's not a necessarily nice word. But it's the word that that it can be heard, right? As she right. So I don't know if you've noticed this, but I've noticed it the amount of decline in cognitive function. It's horrible critical thinking common sense. And the ability of a nation or world to be heard it. Right. We're seeing that a little bit loudly. Oh, yeah. We're not gonna talk about why you saw what it was. Cause 2020 sounds like an interesting experiment in herd mentality, her herd immunity herd mentality herd, being herded into our stables so to speak, right. So if you were wondering what that might be, it could be the fluoride in your water. It could be certainly contribute, again, be the pesticides in your food, it could be all of these things that can contribute to cognitive decline. Absolutely. Have you noticed cognitive decline in your friends and family?

Kelly Haugh 38:52  

At least a little bit.

Ari Gronich 38:55  

Have you noticed it?

Kelly Haugh 38:56  

I'd say in general, yeah. The population at large? Yes. I know what you're saying.

Ari Gronich 39:01  

Yeah. Did you know that in the late 1800s, early 1900s, a fifth grader going to school is learning about the same material, as we are learning in freshman year of college right now.

Kelly Haugh 39:21  

That's crazy.

Ari Gronich 39:24  

That's really odd. Is that a little odd? I think it's all absolutely. Yeah, we have declined so much in our cognitive function, that we can't even they're not even teaching us. And I think part of it is that we like our children to be children.

Kelly Haugh 39:42  

Well, yeah.

Ari Gronich 39:45  

I'm not sure. I'm not sure if that was how nature intended to

Kelly Haugh 39:49  

right.

Ari Gronich 39:50  

For children to be children for so long for so long. Yeah. You know, understand

Kelly Haugh 39:55  

that, um, you know, also in the 1800s, right. They didn't have that. distractions. I mean, just everywhere distractions.

Ari Gronich 40:03  

This is true this that the other goes fast roll this.

Kelly Haugh 40:08  

I mean, people are just like, go, go go. And I do think that's part of it too is just, um, I get the kid part, which is a little different, but still just the stress level that everybody's under also affects the brain immensely.

Ari Gronich 40:22  

Yeah, I was I was watching it, or I was reading a book to my son, I read him these books called the value books. And they all have a different value and then a historical character that emulated that value. Okay, so we just did understanding with Margaret Mead. Okay, cool. And Marguerite, if you don't know, she was a famous anthropologist who went to different islands, she was the first anthropologist to actually go to where the people are that she was studying and live with them amongst them. So before that, you know, anthropologists would study in books, right? They never went out to the locations of studies, she went to the location. So she went to the Samoan islands. And on the small island, she found that they raised their kids a very certain way, by the time they were six, they were already starting to learn how to cook and take care of the younger siblings, and do all that they still have their playtime, but they had a lot of responsibility. By the time they were 13. They were basically able to take care of an entire family. And, you know, look at getting married, they were able to choose their partner, their wife, or or husband. And they found that as adults, they were really, really happy. And then she went to another community and the kids had no responsibility. They were just able to play all day long all the time. Right? No, no responsibility, but they didn't learn how to live. As adults. We call it we call this now adulting adulting. This is this is a term we needed to use adults. Yes. Yeah. So they found that those people as adults were miserable, angry, not having fun, they didn't like each other, their marriages were arranged. Right? Right, they didn't have the choice of who they would marry, they had to pay a humungous fee for that wife, you know, to the family. So they were in debt the whole time. I mean, they had all these different things that kept them from being happy. But it was interesting to me to learn how to Samoans are so happy because they knew how to take care of each other. So all the responsibilities did not cause them stress, because they have the they have the tools, they all knew how to do it, and they could all share in it, they know how to do it, they could share it, it they have the tools, and nothing could come as a surprise. Really, that would stress them out as much because they had already experienced all those things.

Kelly Haugh 43:11  

Right? really fascinating. To me, very,

Ari Gronich 43:14  

yeah, I just thought I'd bring that up in case anybody was thinking that our kids are getting, you know, a little too complacent with their iPads and YouTubes and stuff like that. Not quite learning about how to learn but learning how to ask Siri how to learn.

Kelly Haugh 43:34  

Yeah, absolutely.

Ari Gronich 43:36  

Just in case anybody ever, ever, you know, thought about that? I know, when I was a kid, we used to go out to the fields and pick berries every now and then it wasn't a regular thing. But during berry season, we'd go out and pick a bucket full and we get to keep you know, half of what we picked. You know, we had we had jobs early but nowadays they have they have these iPads. And now my son is doing a YouTube.

Oh boy. Gabriel.

Gabriel Gronich. Is his YouTube channel. Go subscribe. He's collecting silver and, and has five businesses. Nice. Nice. Great, pretty nice, you know? Yeah, yeah, he was going to school. And the teacher asked him how they were feeling how he was feeling. He said angry. The teacher said Why are you angry? He said, I have five businesses and nothing you're teaching me is going to help me with one of them. That is a six year old worth watching. Right now.

Kelly Haugh 44:45  

 kidding. He's on fire.

Ari Gronich 44:46  

He is gonna do it. He is gonna he's gonna rule the world one day, which is really cool for me because I get to watch and and hopefully be a good support. Right. Yes, it gets a feed him well. So he has cognitive function, right? He's had no vaccines. Very good. I know there's a lot of controversy about vaccines. I'm not completely against them as a concept, but I think that they were really designed more to emulate. Home, you homeopathics. And they kind of lost their way when they stopped putting them in little sugar pellets and started putting them in formaldehyde Mercury, and yeah, there might be other stuff, right? Yeah, absolutely. So you know, if you're, if you're a vaccinating person, and you would say, Oh, he's an anti vaxxer. Yes. Just so you know, but there's a reason why, you know, you know, all the reasons why you would never want your kids to be vaccinated with the current schedule, and the current way of producing the vaccines. Just caveat, Well, number one.

Kelly Haugh 46:01  

That's a big subject for me. Um, I would first just say, for people who are gung ho on vaccines, you absolutely need to spread them out. Absolutely. Even even if you're going to do them, no matter what, no matter what anybody says, that's fine. But you should at least spread them out. So your child isn't overloaded with a whole bunch of chemicals all at once. It's very bad for the body. My daughter, actually, we are, I don't think you knew this part. But we're pretty well convinced that she has autism, because of her vaccines. She was tracking on normally till six months. And then she had five vaccines at once, which we were told was totally fine, totally normal. And it's at the time, no longer, you know, we believed we, the doctors know what they're doing. They're trained, they're well trained. All of that. Now I say, you have to ask, Is there something different, better and more, but, um, she was never the same after that. And so basically, she had an underlining, you know, issue going on, we didn't know about an immune issue. You put all that in a little baby, and the body goes berserk, basically, because, you know, it's trying to get rid of that attack it. And so I'm, I kind of like you all say, Well, I'm not an anti vaxxer. But you have to be very, on your own, you need to find out all about every bit of information you can about it. And does your kid really need it? And absolutely, no matter what I want people to know they need to spread those apart one vaccine at a time. That's it. Because if there's any issue going on underlying and you don't know about it, you're gonna know about it way too soon.

Ari Gronich 47:52  

And you're gonna find out if you do it one at a time, which one caused it?

Kelly Haugh 47:58  

Absolutely, then you would know. Yeah. The other thing is, if you don't mind me just putting this in here, because we're talking about this. I want people to know this because people don't know this at all. So I'm in about first grade, then they wanted to get my daughter the MMR booster. Because, you know, school at school. We said absolutely not. She'll never have another vaccine ever. But we were working with this great doctor in California at the time. And he said, Oh, all we need to do is a simple blood test, a titers test, very simple, not much blood at all. So he checked her titers levels for that. She was actually at 4,400% higher than what she should be. So had we gone ahead and gone along with, let's give her this MMR booster would have been even more detrimental to her health. But he said only 5% of kids actually need that booster that when they are tested actually need it. 95 don't, but they just give it to everybody. Which to me is just pathetic. Right? We're gonna give it to 95% of kids who don't even need it.

Ari Gronich 49:12  

It's not right. It's kind of like quarantining 95% of the population. I wouldn't know anything about that. But that Sounds Sounds like a similar, you know, these these things are really all about one, you know, one size fits all, so to speak solutions. And as we know, we are all snowflakes. And I don't mean that in the detrimental, you know, political way of calling people snowflakes. I mean, we are all unique. We are very individual and what's good for me is not necessarily good for you, and definitely not at the same time. Yeah,

Kelly Haugh 49:58  

right. Everyone's body is different. Everyone's physiology is different. You know, there's so many factors, everything. It's all multifactorial. And so you have to consider all of that you can't just blanket everybody into the same thing. It doesn't. Well, you can do it, but it doesn't turn out good,

Ari Gronich 50:16  

right? But if we were to blanket people into the same thing, what would we do? We would probably want to vaccinate everybody, because then we'd have everybody on the same playing field. Right? Right. What happens when somebody is is not? There, their body can handle the same thing as somebody else's. We all know the person who could eat 50,000 McDonald's hamburgers and stay skinny. Right? And somebody else drives by McDonald's, and we'll get there just by driving. Right, you know, so yeah, this is like, it's a discussion to help get everybody on the same pages. But it's the same pages, your page, absolutely your individual page, not the same page that everybody else is on the same page? You need to be on yourself, right? Absolutely.

Kelly Haugh 51:16  

Yeah. Because everyone is different. Every physiology is different. Every You know, my mind works different than yours might get works different than yours. You know, everything is different. Because and so you can't treat the snowflakes the same. You can't treat

Ari Gronich 51:36  

politics as well as food. Medicine. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But how do we get the the, you know, how do we get that to be a system it system by usable thing? Because we all know that everybody needs to systemize everything. Right? So how do we get that to be a systemized double thing? Especially if doctors aren't allowed? You know, really, to meet with you for more than seven minutes? Oh,

Kelly Haugh 52:09  

my gosh, right.

Ari Gronich 52:10  

How long does it take for you to do an assessment as a nutritionist?

Kelly Haugh 52:14  

I mean, it would depend on the person what they've got going on, on average, 45 minutes an hour, you know, as a first, you know,

Ari Gronich 52:22  

if somebody's going on?

Kelly Haugh 52:24  

Yeah. I mean, I could, if you would first address the few things going on. And then you would need to revisit and, you know, address more if somebody has a lot of things going on. So you could spend hour and a half, two hours. I mean, it could end up being three or four hours. I mean, you know, to really get in depth and see what's really going on,

Ari Gronich 52:45  

right? is that happening? Not in most cases, is your doctor taking an hour to two hours to really find out what's going on. And I don't want this to be like I'm bashing doctors, because frankly, I think doctors are heroes that really deserve a lot of metals for their courage, because they've decided to go into a system that literally threatens them if they don't do medicine, the way of the insurance. Companies Yeah, and, you know, there's this moral hazard, that world trauma, moral hazard that doctors are going through, because they are they're looking at at the world going, I I just want people to be healthy, I want to I want to treat and take care of people, right? And the system is not letting me do that. So, you know, I always go back to the old medicine man, medicine woman, and the doctors in the olden days, they would do these things. They're unheard of called house calls. They would show up at your house, right? They would spend time watching you live, sometimes a week. And then they get an idea of what it was in your environment in your lifestyle in what you were doing that was causing the problem. And eventually, they would be able to then solve that problem.

Right? Absolutely. But today is settle you in so you out. And they have a lot of information and they're trained well, but they don't have all the information and they aren't trained on everything because they're trained in their realm, which is primarily pharmaceuticals, etc. Right? And so, you know, they absolutely have a very important job and they they are heroes and do so many great things but they have their own realm. And then there's a lot more to health and wellness that they just don't care. However,

right? So you wouldn't want to go to a foot doctor, for instance, if you had a brain tumor. And you don't want to go to a doctor, if you have an issue with nutrition, just like you wouldn't go to a doctor for pain, because of a weakness or an accident, who would only be able to give you? medication? Right, right, yeah, versus going to a therapist, or some sort of chiropractor, physical therapist, massage therapist, personal trainer, who actually deals with injuries and why they occur, right. So just just kind of kick to note, we've started doing things backwards, right, we're not doing things the right direction, because we're looking for this fast, you know, fast Hill solution versus a lifestyle solution versus a way of living solution, right. And by doing that, what's happened is, it takes a really long time to lose weight now, because you're literally getting big, and then small and big and small, and the big and then small. And then Big and then big. And every time you get big, you get a little bit bigger. And every time you get small, it's a little less small. Right? Right. And it takes a really long time. Because you go from fast, pill to fast Delta fast kills fascination fast solution, versus just taking a look at gets. Let's get rid of the fads. Let's get rid of the concepts. Let's just go back to what was working for the last couple hundred thousand years. Right? Yeah. Or if you're religious the last 2000 years, right. 6000 years, right. What was working then is probably going to work better for our system and what wasn't? What isn't working now? Probably isn't going to work better in the future, like pesticides and processed foods. Those things are not our bodies are not ready for that. Yeah. Right. Right.

Kelly Haugh 57:16  

You can you can detoxify and get rid of so much, but only so much, right? And if you're constantly putting more and more in and on your body. Yeah, you're not you're not able to detox all of that and get rid of it.

Ari Gronich 57:30  

Yeah, let's talk about makeup and lotions and haircare products and cosmetics as well and how they play a role in ill health, inflammation, etc.

Right. So those are follow up again, neurotoxins, they lates all kinds of bad chemicals. Many of them like the average woman puts 175 or something chemicals on in and on her body every single day, between all her makeup and lotions and you know everything and there's lots of natural natural alternatives out there. You know, there's several you can make your own with different essential oils, things like that. Or, you know, there's readily available courses, or outsource like that you can find lots of more natural products. Yeah,

we have a friend who has naked beauty. Yeah, absolutely. Right. Yeah. Naked beauty and all that

Kelly Haugh 58:28  

good stuff. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

Ari Gronich 58:30  

So you know, these are the things that we we recommend. I'm gonna we're gonna end this episode, because I think it's been a really great episode so far. Thank you, I'd like to end it on a good note. So So give the audience three things that they aren't, that's actionable, doable, easily available, ready for them that they can do right now. So that they can create a new tomorrow today for their own health and vitality.

Kelly Haugh 59:03  

Okay, so number one I go with, if you're not taking a good pre and probiotic do that, it can either be in the pill form a good one, or you can go out and get you a bag of sauerkraut if you don't want to make any kombucha, kimchi, any of those. So in any realm of that to get your good gut bacteria going better. Number two would be that cutting off or down on the sugar, refined carbs because that's going to help number one, those feed the bad gut bacteria. So you're feeding having a big feeding frenzy in there, and they squelching down the good. So those kind of go together but they're different. So cutting out that sugar and refined carbs, really important. And the other thing it's hard to narrow it to three but stress is a huge cause of massive amounts of illness for people. So, that chronic stress piece, do something to lessen your stress, okay? So whether that's you're going to meditate even five minutes, you're going to just put on music you love and listen to it. You're going to you're feeling you know, totally stressed out, you're going to look in your environment, you're going to look around to see something pretty see something enjoyable. What do you what do you feel? Can you feel something that can distract you and calm you down? You know, you want to use the senses and engage the senses to get calm down a little bit. So those are a few just, you know, easy things people can do to add in, that will actually make a big difference.

Ari Gronich 1:00:40  

Awesome. Thank you so much for being here, Kelly. And you have a new book?

Kelly Haugh 1:00:45  

I do. I have a new book out, I'm super excited about it. Mind, your gut,

Ari Gronich 1:00:52  

your gut. See if we can get this pixelate properly,

Kelly Haugh 1:00:58  

many connotations to it minding your gut.

Ari Gronich 1:01:01  

Yes, yes, give it a little bit about what this book is about, and what they'll what people will get from from reading it. And then how they can go about finding it and finding you if they want to learn more.

Kelly Haugh 1:01:13  

Okay, cool. Thank you very much. Um, so you know, it's minding your gut powering up your immune system, your stress, resilience, and your mental wellness through your gut brain. So that whole gut brain piece, which is very important, I talked about the problem, the problem with chronic stress, anxiety, depression, I talk a little bit about science in the book. So people know, like, what is it all about? And why should I care. But then I make it very relatable with some stories. And so and it has some great actionable tips as well, that people can use distressing. So yeah, they could go to mindyourgutsbook.com to find the book itself, you can order on there if you want to. And you can definitely read just a little bit more about the book and the journey and how it came, came to be, or it is also available on Amazon now.

Ari Gronich 1:02:11  

Awesome. Anywhere else that if they want to get a hold of us social media.

Kelly Haugh 1:02:16  

So my website is manifestnaturalwellness.com. And I do have a Facebook group too, which is a it's on the back of this. It is stress busters, Inc. and they can get hold of me that way.

Ari Gronich 1:02:35  

Awesome. Thank you so much for being here. And this has been another episode of creating a new tomorrow. We are here to create a new model today give you actionable steps to do that. Go check out my blog as well a newtomorrow.com or createanewtomorrow.com. Or you could go to Amazon and find it there. It'll give you actionable steps on how you can live your most passionate life today. So thank you so much for being here. Kelly, I really appreciate it. As to seeing you, you know, in your book, get more publicity, get out there more. And that way, we can create much more of an impact on the world. Hey, yeah, want to change the world, change the world. And again, to the governors, the senators, the politicians that are hiding behind their lobbyists. We're coming for you do the right thing. make the world a healthier place today. Thank you for listening to this podcast. I appreciate all you do to create a new tomorrow for yourself and those around you. If you'd like to take this information further and are interested in joining a community of like minded people who are all passionate about activating their vision for a better world. Go to the website, create a new tomorrow.com and find out how you can be part of making a bigger difference. I have a gift for you just for checking it out and look forward to seeing you take the leap and joining our private paid mastermind community. Until then, see you on the next episode.