In this tender and Spirit-led conversation, Deb and Caffe begin in Hebrews 4 and follow the thread of God’s promised rest from Old Testament to the New Testament. What unfolds is more than a discussion about Sabbath or slowing down — it’s a revelation of the abiding rest available to us in Christ.

Together, they explore what it means to cease from striving, to stop living from performance, and to trust the finished work of Jesus. It’s an active abiding — a settled confidence in who He is and what He has accomplished.

There remains a rest for the people of God. The question is not whether it exists — but whether we will enter it.

If you’ve been weary, striving, or carrying more than the Lord ever asked you to hold, this conversation is an invitation: Come. Abide. Rest.