This episode is the fourth and final session from the A Matter of Life and Breath series , where we’ve been walking through Galatians 2:20—what it means to be crucified with Christ and to now live by faith in the Son of God.

This conversation begins in an honest place: forgiveness.

In light of the love of God, we often have to confront the ways unforgiveness has taken root in our hearts. Deb shares personally about the weight of unforgiveness, how it leads to bitterness, and how it subtly distorts our ability to believe the truth about who God is.

Through repentance and renewal, we’re invited into alignment with what is true—that God’s love is not conditional, distant, or fragile… but constant, personal, and already given.

As the conversation unfolds, we return to the anchor of Galatians 2:20: that we are loved, and that Jesus gave Himself for us.

This is more than a concept—it’s a reality we’re invited to live from.

This episode is a call into deeper discipleship, into living by faith, and into the freedom that comes from being fully known and fully loved by God.

In this third session of A Matter of Life and Breath, recorded live at a women’s gathering, we center our conversation on a powerful phrase from Galatians 2:20:

“The life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God…”

What does it actually look like to live this way?

Together, we explore the invitation to live right here in our everyday lives by faith in Jesus—not striving to become something, but living from what is already true in Him.

This conversation gently brings us back to reality:

• Faith isn’t something we add to our life—it’s the very way we live now
• The unseen life in Christ is more real than anything we experience naturally
• We are not the source of goodness—He is, and His life in us is enough

Through Scripture, personal testimony, and honest reflection, this episode is an invitation to rest in what is already finished… and to live from the life of Christ within you.

And at the very end, you’ll hear a brand new song written out of this very revelation—that the goodness of God isn’t just something we receive… it becomes our good.

In this episode of Rooted and Woven, we’re continuing from last week’s session from the women’s event, where Deb spoke. In session one, we talked about what it means to be crucified with Christ… and now we’re stepping into the next part: “it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me.”

This conversation really centers on what that actually looks like in real life.

Not just as an idea we agree with, but as something we live from.

We talk a lot about dependence on Jesus—how easy it is to slip back into striving, and how freeing it is to remember that we were never meant to be the source of our own life. There’s a letting go here… and also a deeper kind of living.

You’ll hear us talk through things like:

• what it means to walk in humility instead of self-effort
• being raised with Christ into a completely new kind of life
• how the cross and resurrection really shape everything
• noticing God at work in both the big, miraculous moments and the everyday ones
• living as a new creation right now, not someday
• stepping out of performance and back into grace
• what it looks like to die to self in the middle of normal life
• and what it means that Christ Himself is actually living in us

More than anything, this episode is an invitation.

An invitation to stop striving… and to rest in the reality that Jesus is your life—and He’s faithful to live through you.

This episode was recorded live at a women’s gathering, where we spent the weekend slowing down and anchoring ourselves in one powerful verse: Galatians 2:20.

In this first session, Deb gently invites us to focus on the opening phrase: “I have been crucified with Christ.” Together, we explore what this foundational truth really means—and why it changes everything.

Through biblical teaching, historical context from the Apostle Paul’s letters, and testimony of God's work, this session unpacks the significance of the finished work of Christ and the new life we’ve been brought into through Him. It addresses the tension between performance-based Christianity and the spiritual reality of being fully united with Christ.

As we look closely at this first statement, we begin to see that our identity is no longer something we strive to build—but something we’ve already been given.

This is where freedom begins.
This is where striving ends.
This is where we believe God for who we are.

Whether you’re feeling weary from trying to “get it right” or simply longing to go deeper in your faith, this conversation is an invitation to rest in what is already finished—and to live from what is already true.

What happens when we begin to parent from the whole gospel instead of a partial one?

In this episode, Deb, Caffe, Lori, and Stephanie talk about how our understanding of the gospel shapes every area of life—from marriage and relationships to the way we raise our children.

A partial gospel can leave parents feeling like everything depends on them: managing behavior, suppressing struggles, and trying to raise children who reflect a “good Christian life.” The pressure can be overwhelming.

But the whole gospel tells a different story.

Jesus is not only our Savior—He is our Lord, and He is actively transforming us from the inside out. When we begin to live from the security of belonging to Him, parenting begins to change. The pressure to perform fades, the myth of balance loosens its grip, and we begin to rest in the work Christ is doing.

And the promise of the gospel doesn’t stop with us—God is at work in our children as well.

This conversation invites parents to move from striving to trust and to discover the freedom of parenting from the rest we have in Christ.

In this episode of Rooted & Woven, Laura and Deb return to a powerful analogy Deb first shared years ago — the “above and the below.”

Together, they unpack what it means that the most real thing about us is not what is happening in the visible, temporal realm, but what is true in the unseen, spiritual realm — the “above.” Scripture tells us that we are seated in heavenly places in Christ Jesus right now. That reality is not symbolic. It is not aspirational. It is present and unchanging.

The “below” is what we see and feel — circumstances, emotions, disappointments, successes, relationships, struggles. It is the temple realm of earth. But nothing that happens below can alter who we are above.

This conversation gently lifts our gaze. It reminds us that our identity is secure, our position is fixed, and our union with Christ is untouched by the shifting ground beneath our feet.

If you’ve been feeling shaken by what is happening around you, this episode is an invitation to anchor yourself in what is eternally true.

In this tender and Spirit-led conversation, Deb and Caffe begin in Hebrews 4 and follow the thread of God’s promised rest from Old Testament to the New Testament. What unfolds is more than a discussion about Sabbath or slowing down — it’s a revelation of the abiding rest available to us in Christ.

Together, they explore what it means to cease from striving, to stop living from performance, and to trust the finished work of Jesus. It’s an active abiding — a settled confidence in who He is and what He has accomplished.

There remains a rest for the people of God. The question is not whether it exists — but whether we will enter it.

If you’ve been weary, striving, or carrying more than the Lord ever asked you to hold, this conversation is an invitation: Come. Abide. Rest.

This table conversation did not unfold the way we originally planned — and we’re so grateful it didn’t.

What began as a scheduled gathering with Deb, Lori, and several of us girls shifted unexpectedly into a smaller conversation with just Laura, Caffe, and Teresa. Without the familiar voices that often help guide these discussions, we felt stretched. But what we experienced instead was the steady, familiar presence of the Lord carrying us.

We began by reflecting on the profound impact Deb and Lori have had in our lives — how they have faithfully spoken the truth of God’s Word into our circumstances and reminded us of our identity in Christ when we were tempted to believe otherwise. As we talked, it became clear that the seeds they have sown were bearing fruit in real time.

Our conversation moved into what it truly means to die to ourselves and take up our cross — not as a heavy burden, but as the doorway into real life. We explored the beauty of transformation through the image of a caterpillar becoming a butterfly. In Christ, we don’t simply become improved versions of ourselves; we are made new. The old ways of thinking lose their grip. We are no longer bound to the ground by fear, striving, or old patterns — we are fitted for heaven and alive in Him.

This conversation is honest, tender, and full of awe at how the Lord leads when we simply show up and trust Him.

In this episode, Deb Krum, Laura Cimbalik, and Lori Lowe explore the simplicity of the gospel and the power of life in Christ, centered on the truth of Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

Rooted in 1 Corinthians 2:1–5, the conversation highlights the contrast between human wisdom and God’s wisdom, reminding us that our faith is not built on persuasive words or performance, but on the power of the Holy Spirit. Together, they reflect on what it means to live as new creations—no longer defined by our past, our striving, or our understanding, but by the finished work of the cross.

This episode invites listeners to release the pressure we place on ourselves, embrace their identity in Christ, and rediscover the freedom that comes from partnering with God rather than trying to work for Him. Through prayer and reflection, Deb, Laura, and Lori encourage believers to proclaim God’s testimony with confidence, trusting that His wisdom far surpasses the wisdom of men.

In session six of Roots Up, we continue our journey through day two by centering on one essential question: Do we actually believe what God says about us?

Deb shares about living much of her life as what she calls an “unbelieving believer”—someone who professed faith in Christ, yet struggled to live from the reality of what God had already declared to be true. Together, we unpack the difference between simply knowing Scripture and truly believing it.

Rooted in Philippians 3:12–14, this session invites us to forget what lies behind and press forward toward the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Rather than living anchored to our past or our patterns, we are called to live with our eyes fixed ahead—actively stepping into what God has already made possible.

A believing believer takes God at His word. When Scripture says we are a new creation, that means the old is gone and the new has come—right now. As partakers in His divine nature, we are invited to live from a present reality, not a future hope. Struggle is not inevitable, and identity is not fragile when it’s rooted in Christ.

This session is a powerful reminder that on the days we forget who we are, our sisters can help call us back to the truth of His Word.

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