Donald Trump upset Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy, European leaders and hawks in the United States by discussing a potential ceasefire agreement for Ukraine with Russian president Valdimir Putin. Erik Sperling, executive director of Just Foreign Policy, joins us to explain the latest developments, why this phone call rankled people around the world and why people should consider diplomacy rather than staying in the fight.We also discuss Trump’s picks for DNI, Tulsi Gabbard, and Defense Secretary, Pete Hegseth.You can follow Erik here: https://x.com/eriksperlingOur most recent premium episode for paid subscribers is with Prem Thakker, who joined us to discuss the imploding ceasefire deal in Gaza. You can get access to that episode (and an additional episode every week) by subscribing: https://www.insurgentspod.com/p/ep-349-ceasefire-deal-implodes-ft

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