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Hi, I am here with Norman Plotkin, He is Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist with a medical emphasis as well as cancer wellness and recovery as an integrative medicine modality. Also certified for hypnotherapy in pre- and post-surgery, pain management, PTSD, smoking cessation, sleep, stress, anxiety and more. How I can help you: Cancer Recovery; Surgery Preparation, Smoking Addiction, Drug Free, Pain Free, Emotional Release, PTSD Therapy. here is the Highlights of the episode hope you enjoy. Listen to the full episode in your favorite podcast app.
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Create a fundamental change in the global community from a strictly reactive system of medicine that focuses on symptom and emergency treatment to a proactive system based on whole-being health as well as illness and injury prevention. Personally teach and influence at least one million people.
We are a multifaceted Health and Wellness company that specializes in Corporate Wellness and Culture Consulting, Industry Speaking engagements and Continuing education for the industry.
We Help corporations by solving the most costly problems they have with Productivity and Health Care while creating a culture that thrives on accomplishment and community.
We help organizations think outside of the box and gain tools that allow them to be nimble and strong as tides and markets shift.
We Up level the skills and tools of other practitioners by providing them continuing education that actually leads to greater success and standing in the business community.
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Ari Gronich 0:07
Welcome back, everybody. This is Ari Gronich with create a new tomorrow. We are here today with Norman Plotkin. He is a hypnotherapist and author a coach. He's been a health committee consultant for the California Legislature representing California physicians, his own private lobbying firms and nation states. And this is something I really want to talk to him about, because I love government so much, as you all know. So I just wanted to put that out there that he has been one of the evil ones. Maybe we'll see lobbying in our nation's capitol? I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what that that tells us. So Norman, why don't you tell us a little bit deeper about who you are, why you became who you are. And and this journey of going from a legislature and consultant to transitioning into clinical hypnotherapy? I mean, this is crazy. It's crazy talk, you know, what most people would consider. So let's, let's just get into it. Norman. Tell us about yourself and how you became who you are.
Norman Plotkin 1:15
Yeah, a long strange trip. It's been right. So I, you know, I grew up on a ranch and I didn't go to college right away, I went in the Marine Corps. And then I got out of the Marine Corps, and I worked in the oil fields and rock plant where I made little rocks out of big rocks, like Fred Flintstone and, and then I was doing construction line work, climbing telephone poles thinking that the world looked up to linemen, and to some extent they do, but I ran into an experience, my brother was killed in a car accident, and I reevaluated everything, and I shut down what I was doing then and went back to college. And I was in a hurry, because now I'm 25. And feeling behind. And so I went to community college, I did speech and debate and Student Government transfer to the university and graduated in three years, with a bunch of internship credits. And because I, you know, went to school in Sacramento, where the capital was and, and galis internships, the government chair on my exit interview, looked at the number of 18 units of internships that that'll never happen again, you know, I said, well, then everybody has now why you come to Sacramento, right? So, at any rate, I got within the first semester, I got a job as a clerk in the state assembly. And from clerk to consultant, I ran campaigns, I became a committee consultant, that I was hired by the Medical Association to lobby to lobby doing that for several years and then and then struck out on my own and had my own lobbying firm.
Ari Gronich 2:56
Actually, I'm gonna interrupt you for a second, I have a question about that. You are a marine. Now you're learning meditation? Where did those two things combined? Because I know a lot of Marines I know a lot of Navy SEALs, and they're meditating constantly during during conflict. I mean, that's how they get through the conflict. Did you find that there was any correlation there between the meditating and and your experience in Marines?
Norman Plotkin 3:27
Well, the, the power of the mind. And the things that led me get, you know, helped me get through my experience as a marine was were the kind of things that led me to hypnotherapy. It wasn't until later that when I learned how to meditate, that I realized I was using breathing techniques. Before you know the navy seals, teach box breathing, you know, five seconds in five seconds out five seconds in five seconds out building a box. And I know that now, but when you're in it, I didn't understand it at the time. What I needed to do was get control of my overactive mind. I was faced with, you know, life threatening disease, and it's never just about the cancer in my marriage didn't survive that. You know, all the things I've worked so hard for my big house, my fast cars, all these things that I thought were important really weren't. But it's in that transition where you think you've losing the things that were important to you. That make that makes it difficult. So I learned to breathe and learn to meditate I learned era Aveda and my dosha and how to eat for my dosha and I learned a lot about myself. And then teachers began to appear. I read Wayne Dyer the power of intention. Carolyn meese anatomy, the spirit, Deepak Chopra is quantum healing. Joe dispenza. So many just began to appear my interest moved in that direction and I really the power of intention when Wayne Dyer I saw him speak in Pasadena in 2015, very powerful saw Carolyn nice at the same time, Joe dispenza. And I really wanted to put myself into the service of others, it became a serious thing. And so I walked away from the lobbying thing, I shut down the firm I moved to LA. And, and initially, I had taken a job as a as executive director of a trade association, which was akin to what I've been doing. And after a year of that, it, you know, I just, I didn't renew the contract. And I began to look in a new direction and I was led, I was led to I was looking at coaching and I saw this one program where the psychologists they said, Well, you need to get an edge add hypnosis to your coaching program. I said to myself, well, I thought that was fairly interesting thing, but I wasn't gonna go to a one week deal. So it turns out, the nationally accredited college of hypnotherapy is right there in Los Angeles. I was in Burbank, and it's in Tarzana. And I met somebody who'd gone. And I signed up.
Ari Gronich 6:04
Nice. I noticed as I stated to you, before we started recording, I saw you and I went to hypnosis motivation Institute. Both went there and got our clinical hypnotherapy, certificates and so on. And it's a great school. This was the This was the first school for hypnotherapy in the country. Now, there's, you know, tons of them, I don't think any of them are, are quite as good as as HDMI. But tell me something, when when you were deciding to transition into coaching and deciding to transition into the consulting, you know, you've authored three books. What did you decide? Was the point of the three books? Like, each one, I'm sure has its own point. But how did you how did you decide the passion that you would put into those that content into those words, because a lot of people want to write a book, but they don't know if that book is going to sell, they don't know if it's going to be read, they just are passionate about putting their brain onto paper. And so out of the enormous amount of experience that you have, how did you decide those? Because I think all three of those made number one bestseller? Is that correct?
Norman Plotkin 7:33
Two of them are bestsellers, the other was brand new, so
Ari Gronich 7:36
Okay, two of them are our bestsellers. So, you know, tell us a little bit about the content of the books and what it is that you're trying to teach people?
Norman Plotkin 7:46
Sure. So I always wanted to write a book. And it's getting to that focus place where what what's the story, you want to tell what what's the value to the reader. And so I tried really hard for three years to write a book about the cancer experience, and I got nowhere. So I hired a coach, I, I attended the author, incubator program, and having the ability to focus, you know, I, who knew that I was unsuccessful for three years, because I was trying to write more than one book at once, you know what I mean? So getting really clear on who my reader was, and what my message was, was the upshot of having a coach who's helped, you know, literally 1000s of people write books. And so it became the, the cathartic memoir of the cancer experience. And so I was able to organize it into the seven proven steps to healing and recovery. So that was, that was the first book in it, and it felt really good and and it's really about a message of hope. And that for people when you're in the middle of it, you've got the skin in the game and you really need to be your own captain. And that's the take charge.
Ari Gronich 9:10
Yeah, so I want to know what that what these seven proven steps are. Because so I was people a lot of people don't know, I used to be on the advisory board for a long time of a cancer nonprofit called marathon and miracles and we were mostly alternative healthcare and and we would help people get solutions that were not necessarily the chemos and the radiations and the toxins and the and the medicines and pills, but things like Gerson you know, protocol with coffee enemas. I mean, these are the things that people don't know that they really really want. A drink Doritos, herring, a juice, drinking bitter green juice, right. That was something that people don't know that they don't want. So yeah, what are the what are the seven proven techniques and let's just go one by one and then kind of talk them out.
Norman Plotkin 10:08
All right, I've done Gerson, I've done Granny, Granny Smith, apple juice, you know, three days, nothing but, and those, those are powerful. Those are powerful methods. But the seven steps begins with radically change your diet. We have what's known today in America as the sad. Yeah, the standard American diet. And it's making people sick, processed foods, high fat, fast foods. It's really important to eat, to live and eat foods that are not processed. And so there's a whole there's a whole chapter on it, but a high level is Eat to Live and so radically change your diet.
Ari Gronich 10:56
Right. But Americans love to live to eat. Not not Eat to Live. Yeah. And, you know, they're unwilling to forego the fried chicken from Kentucky Fried or, or the MSG from places, you know, I mean, they're unwilling to do that. So how do we explain this in a way that somebody can say? I'm going to do that, because that sounds a lot better than having my organs eaten from the inside out. Right.
Norman Plotkin 11:27
So yeah, I mean, I deal with people who smoke cigarettes and the package on it says, Surgeon General says this could kill you. And they do it anyway. So. So that's one of the chapters to the subconscious mind, I'll get to that in a second. But because you know, change is hard to change. One thing in your life is hard to change seven things is nearly impossible for some, so radically change your diet, learn to meditate. getting control of your self talk is super important, because you're listening, and so is every cell in your body. So meditation, and getting control of your active mind, the mind can be the master or the slave.
Ari Gronich 12:07
Towards the end of this conversation, I just wanted to lead it back there because I want people to have tricks and tools and tips and things that they can do to make their life better, to make their communities better to make the relationships more rich and vibrant and lively. So that suicide is not even in their consciousness as an option. Because they always know there's somebody out there to help, there's some kind of hope, some kind of thing that they could do. And so I wanted to bring it back there. And I want you to just talk about that a little bit. You know, as a subconscious, mindfulness healing coach person, I know that that this is some of the stuff you have to deal with every single day.
Norman Plotkin 13:01
Love is our birthright. Love is God energy. Love, energy equals God, energy, whatever, by whatever name you call God, the divine. Having love in your heart space is your birthright. It's why you're here. And so, so often people wonder, why am I here? Why? These are all lessons, we're here, we signed up our soul. souls are eternal. We live we are eternal souls living a temporary biological existence in this very dense frequency that's known as Earth and emotion that lives here and people souls come here to learn about emotion because this is the only place that exists in the universe. And so each of these things are a lesson. I often find myself when I'm in my next embarrassing moment. Let me learn the lesson quickly. And, you know, what's, where's the lesson? Let me learn it quickly find the lesson, learn it quickly move on to my next embarrassing moment. But as long as we see it that way. You know, I mentioned earlier about the email I got from the guy who read my book and and credited the book with you know, having five months of chemo holiday and I, I asked myself, why did I get cancer? Why Why me? at all, this is great live, I thought that was great. Like, why did I have to get cancer What's the meaning of the cancer was to push through to find my true essential purpose in life, to be in the service of others using the power of the subconscious mind leading with love. And when I realized that the message of my channel Answer was to pull me out of a cesspool, and put me into a loving space helping others. When people leave my office, they float out of here feeling bad. And that just that lifts me up. That's, that's my reason for living. And so the pain of the cancer, emotion, emotional and physical. The fear was to direct me to my essential purpose to my soul's purpose. And once I realized that and stop asking why, why did this happen? Well, it was a lesson that I needed to learn and look what I learned it. Thank goodness, I did. And I did I learned it and it brought me to my soul's purpose. And so when you see that, the pain is a lesson. Then you dedicate yourself to learning what is the lesson here? making a game? Now it's a game, what is this pain? teaching me? What What should I learn so that I can move to the next lesson? That's what life is. It's a series of lessons. And if we get hung up on one, and give up, then what is this is what leads us to what's the purpose of life? Well, you forgot what the purpose of life was, you forgot that it's a series of lessons. So get in the game, and learn the lesson and move on to the next one. It may be painful, you may skin your knees. It may hurt your feelings. But do you know your life? And you do then what's the lesson here? Let me learn it quickly so that I can move on to the next lesson. That's why we're here. We're here to learn lessons so that our souls can evolve. If you get hung up on this is painful. You missed it, there's a lesson. And you missed the point of life. And when you remember, if you just fix in your mind that the point of life is to be here and to learn lessons and for our soul to grow and expand. And in so doing it expands others by our example. Right. And so it's in this way that we give meaning and value to our life. By understanding that this pain, there's some there's a lesson remember my favorite, oh, my favorite. The little boy who goes down the hallway and opens the door to his room and is full of horse poop. Nobody said there's a pony in here somewhere. So you see what I mean? Right? So, so bringing it bringing the discernment from your gut, to discernment. From your gut, what to then ask the question, what's the lesson here? Let me learn it quickly so I can move to the next lesson. The next lesson may be painful, accept it, accept that it may be painful, and learn it too. And at some point, the sun begins to rise. And the lessons are less painful. But now you're a teacher. Now you've had your shamanic journey, and now you're become a teacher for others. And that's what mine and yours I hear your story. And I've similar, you know, there was a there was pain, there was pain, and I've I've surveyed all of the all of the major religions I've tracked in in Nepal and studied Buddhism at the monkey temple. I, I my, my girlfriend is from China. And we study Taoism, you know, you talk about wanting to come to this country I have. She's a doctor of traditional Chinese medicine. And you know, she came here from China. And I know a lot of her friends who come here from China, they people are eager to come to this country, it's still the things that it was founded on, are still so using our discernment and keeping love in our heart space. And understanding that what may seem painful is a lesson and asking to learn the lesson quickly so that we might move on to the next. This is the meaning of life.
Ari Gronich 19:07
That's awesome. All right, three, count them three tips, tricks, actionable steps that can be immediately implemented. For anyone listening to this.
Norman Plotkin 19:24
Well, I have to apologize. We recovered them in this wide ranging, but I'm going to recap them here for you. Cool. Bre Bre, Bre breathe in through your nose and out through your mouth, do the box breathing if you need to. These are tactics that they teach people who are in high stress. And so breathing resets the autonomic nervous system. So anytime you're in a moment of stress. Deep breath into your nose,
Ari Gronich 19:52
caveat not your mouth. I have a caveat for that. Breathe in hose, not in through your mouth when you breathe in through your mouth. you excite your adrenal glands. When you breathe in through your nose, you calm your adrenal glands, thereby taking yourself out of fight or flight and into a more balanced, relaxed state. It's really good, by the way, for people who have massive anxiety disorders,
Norman Plotkin 20:18
absolutely enter the nose out through the mouth. Number two is love. Love is your birthright, it resides in your heart center. And if at any moment you don't feel that you're feeling loving, in your heart center, you're feeling fear. And that fear can be get so many other negative emotions and all it's really as simple as fixing in your mind, an icon that represents love for you, and then just imagining it in your heart space and bringing yourself into a place of love. Now, I in my spiritual journey, I have I have done, I have done a number on my ego, it used to be pretty big when I was a lobbyist. And I have reduced that ego to a very, very small now I just want to help people in the shortest amount of time, and there has to be going to be really good at what I do. But so in moments where I feel that ego creeping back in, I just come back to a place of love, I see a red rose, I see my little girl's face, you know, there are these things that just bring me immediately, my holding my mom's hand as she breathed their last breath at night, I was able to take her through hospice, and that just that moment, she brought me in, I escorted her out, and I was so grateful for that opportunity. But these are the things that represent love. And I bring that and fear melts away. So fear, love, not fear. And it's really as easy as that. And the third thing is back to Dr. Frankel, you are so powerful, and you leak your power, the moment you react to somebody without thought. So remember, between space, the space between action reaction, stimulus and response is your power. Because you get to decide what kind of human being you want to be those three things. They don't cost any money. They're easy to remember. And the upside for you is immeasurable.
Ari Gronich 22:11
That's awesome. I have I like to add caveats to things, I have a thing about ego. Because I don't think that ego is this nasty thing that everybody seems to think it is. To me, the nastiness is when the ego is above the commitment, thereby pushing the commitment down. When you have it the other direction and your commitment is here. And your ego is pushing your commitment. To me, that's where you want to be. Because you want that ego, that identity, to push your passion to push your commitment forward. To be competitive with yourself not with others, but with yourself to be better you every time. And your commitment is here. So that ego is is the power that's underneath. It's like the wind beneath my wings, right? So the egos that wind, but my wings is the commitment.
Norman Plotkin 23:13
Absolutely everything. Everything serves a purpose. And so, I mean, my business is Norman black in hypnotherapy. I mean, you can't remove myself from my ego and I'm pushing, I'm pushing my commitment. It's the same thing with liberty and responsibility, right, my Liberty ends where yours begins. And I enjoy Liberty because I have the responsibility to to you know, use it in a positive way. Right. So, absolutely. We don't want no ego. We just want in check under our commitment.
Ari Gronich 23:46
And so, Norman, how can people get ahold of you if they want to get ahold of you?
Norman Plotkin 23:51
I'm at Normanplotkin.com. And Normanplotkin.com. I'm on LinkedIn. Norman Plotkin Inc. Facebook. Norman Plotkin Inc. Instagram, Norman PlotkinCHT. All at Norman Plotkin for Twitter. I don't use that one very much. But
Ari Gronich 24:11
is there a lot of you because I know there's no more Oregon inches on the planet other than this one. So there's Is there any potkins?
Norman Plotkin 24:20
There are, believe it or not. There's a dentist in Monterey. There's a couple of attorneys. Yeah, there are other Norman potkins tune in you know, my grandfather came from the Ukraine in 1903. Turns out it means fisherman you know, the Black Sea there, you know that a lot of them. So at any rate, yeah, there are but none of none of them are hypnotherapists
Ari Gronich 24:42
gotcha. All right. So audience if you'd like to get ahold of Norman you can reach him at Norman Plotkin got anywhere.com basically anywhere you. You want to look social media wise, Facebook or Norman plotkin.com. So I really enjoyed this conversation. Norman. Thank you so much for being You hear and you have given a tremendous value to our guests or to our audience. And I appreciate it. Thank you so much. And this is Ari Gronich. This has been another episode of create a new tomorrow where we are teaching you tips and tricks to create a new tomorrow today. Thank you so much for being here. I look forward to the next one.
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Hi, I am here with Norman Plotkin, He is Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist with a medical emphasis as well as cancer wellness and recovery as an integrative medicine modality. Also certified for hypnotherapy in pre- and post-surgery, pain management, PTSD, smoking cessation, sleep, stress, anxiety and more. How I can help you: Cancer Recovery; Surgery Preparation, Smoking Addiction, Drug Free, Pain Free, Emotional Release, PTSD Therapy. here is the Highlights of the episode hope you enjoy. Listen to the full episode in your favorite podcast app.
CHECK THIS WEBSITE BY NORMAN PLOTKIN TO LEARN MORE!
https://normanplotkin.com/
JOIN NOW!! AND BE PART OF MASTERMIND PROGRAM
learn how to activate yourself for a better future!
https://createanewtomorrow.com/master...
CHECK THIS LINK FOR A FREE GIFT FOR YOU!
https://www.createanewtomorrow.com/gift
DO YOU WANT TO BE OUR NEXT SPECIAL GUEST?
Book an appointment now and let's create a new world together!
https://booking.builderall.com/calend...
CHECK THIS OTHER WEBSITE FOR MORE INFORMATION!
https://www.CreateAnewtomorrow.com
https://www.Achievehealthusa.com
Create a fundamental change in the global community from a strictly reactive system of medicine that focuses on symptom and emergency treatment to a proactive system based on whole-being health as well as illness and injury prevention. Personally teach and influence at least one million people.
We are a multifaceted Health and Wellness company that specializes in Corporate Wellness and Culture Consulting, Industry Speaking engagements and Continuing education for the industry.
We Help corporations by solving the most costly problems they have with Productivity and Health Care while creating a culture that thrives on accomplishment and community.
We help organizations think outside of the box and gain tools that allow them to be nimble and strong as tides and markets shift.
We Up level the skills and tools of other practitioners by providing them continuing education that actually leads to greater success and standing in the business community.
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Ari Gronich 0:07
Welcome back, everybody. This is Ari Gronich with create a new tomorrow. We are here today with Norman Plotkin. He is a hypnotherapist and author a coach. He's been a health committee consultant for the California Legislature representing California physicians, his own private lobbying firms and nation states. And this is something I really want to talk to him about, because I love government so much, as you all know. So I just wanted to put that out there that he has been one of the evil ones. Maybe we'll see lobbying in our nation's capitol? I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what that that tells us. So Norman, why don't you tell us a little bit deeper about who you are, why you became who you are. And and this journey of going from a legislature and consultant to transitioning into clinical hypnotherapy? I mean, this is crazy. It's crazy talk, you know, what most people would consider. So let's, let's just get into it. Norman. Tell us about yourself and how you became who you are.
Norman Plotkin 1:15
Yeah, a long strange trip. It's been right. So I, you know, I grew up on a ranch and I didn't go to college right away, I went in the Marine Corps. And then I got out of the Marine Corps, and I worked in the oil fields and rock plant where I made little rocks out of big rocks, like Fred Flintstone and, and then I was doing construction line work, climbing telephone poles thinking that the world looked up to linemen, and to some extent they do, but I ran into an experience, my brother was killed in a car accident, and I reevaluated everything, and I shut down what I was doing then and went back to college. And I was in a hurry, because now I'm 25. And feeling behind. And so I went to community college, I did speech and debate and Student Government transfer to the university and graduated in three years, with a bunch of internship credits. And because I, you know, went to school in Sacramento, where the capital was and, and galis internships, the government chair on my exit interview, looked at the number of 18 units of internships that that'll never happen again, you know, I said, well, then everybody has now why you come to Sacramento, right? So, at any rate, I got within the first semester, I got a job as a clerk in the state assembly. And from clerk to consultant, I ran campaigns, I became a committee consultant, that I was hired by the Medical Association to lobby to lobby doing that for several years and then and then struck out on my own and had my own lobbying firm.
Ari Gronich 2:56
Actually, I'm gonna interrupt you for a second, I have a question about that. You are a marine. Now you're learning meditation? Where did those two things combined? Because I know a lot of Marines I know a lot of Navy SEALs, and they're meditating constantly during during conflict. I mean, that's how they get through the conflict. Did you find that there was any correlation there between the meditating and and your experience in Marines?
Norman Plotkin 3:27
Well, the, the power of the mind. And the things that led me get, you know, helped me get through my experience as a marine was were the kind of things that led me to hypnotherapy. It wasn't until later that when I learned how to meditate, that I realized I was using breathing techniques. Before you know the navy seals, teach box breathing, you know, five seconds in five seconds out five seconds in five seconds out building a box. And I know that now, but when you're in it, I didn't understand it at the time. What I needed to do was get control of my overactive mind. I was faced with, you know, life threatening disease, and it's never just about the cancer in my marriage didn't survive that. You know, all the things I've worked so hard for my big house, my fast cars, all these things that I thought were important really weren't. But it's in that transition where you think you've losing the things that were important to you. That make that makes it difficult. So I learned to breathe and learn to meditate I learned era Aveda and my dosha and how to eat for my dosha and I learned a lot about myself. And then teachers began to appear. I read Wayne Dyer the power of intention. Carolyn meese anatomy, the spirit, Deepak Chopra is quantum healing. Joe dispenza. So many just began to appear my interest moved in that direction and I really the power of intention when Wayne Dyer I saw him speak in Pasadena in 2015, very powerful saw Carolyn nice at the same time, Joe dispenza. And I really wanted to put myself into the service of others, it became a serious thing. And so I walked away from the lobbying thing, I shut down the firm I moved to LA. And, and initially, I had taken a job as a as executive director of a trade association, which was akin to what I've been doing. And after a year of that, it, you know, I just, I didn't renew the contract. And I began to look in a new direction and I was led, I was led to I was looking at coaching and I saw this one program where the psychologists they said, Well, you need to get an edge add hypnosis to your coaching program. I said to myself, well, I thought that was fairly interesting thing, but I wasn't gonna go to a one week deal. So it turns out, the nationally accredited college of hypnotherapy is right there in Los Angeles. I was in Burbank, and it's in Tarzana. And I met somebody who'd gone. And I signed up.
Ari Gronich 6:04
Nice. I noticed as I stated to you, before we started recording, I saw you and I went to hypnosis motivation Institute. Both went there and got our clinical hypnotherapy, certificates and so on. And it's a great school. This was the This was the first school for hypnotherapy in the country. Now, there's, you know, tons of them, I don't think any of them are, are quite as good as as HDMI. But tell me something, when when you were deciding to transition into coaching and deciding to transition into the consulting, you know, you've authored three books. What did you decide? Was the point of the three books? Like, each one, I'm sure has its own point. But how did you how did you decide the passion that you would put into those that content into those words, because a lot of people want to write a book, but they don't know if that book is going to sell, they don't know if it's going to be read, they just are passionate about putting their brain onto paper. And so out of the enormous amount of experience that you have, how did you decide those? Because I think all three of those made number one bestseller? Is that correct?
Norman Plotkin 7:33
Two of them are bestsellers, the other was brand new, so
Ari Gronich 7:36
Okay, two of them are our bestsellers. So, you know, tell us a little bit about the content of the books and what it is that you're trying to teach people?
Norman Plotkin 7:46
Sure. So I always wanted to write a book. And it's getting to that focus place where what what's the story, you want to tell what what's the value to the reader. And so I tried really hard for three years to write a book about the cancer experience, and I got nowhere. So I hired a coach, I, I attended the author, incubator program, and having the ability to focus, you know, I, who knew that I was unsuccessful for three years, because I was trying to write more than one book at once, you know what I mean? So getting really clear on who my reader was, and what my message was, was the upshot of having a coach who's helped, you know, literally 1000s of people write books. And so it became the, the cathartic memoir of the cancer experience. And so I was able to organize it into the seven proven steps to healing and recovery. So that was, that was the first book in it, and it felt really good and and it's really about a message of hope. And that for people when you're in the middle of it, you've got the skin in the game and you really need to be your own captain. And that's the take charge.
Ari Gronich 9:10
Yeah, so I want to know what that what these seven proven steps are. Because so I was people a lot of people don't know, I used to be on the advisory board for a long time of a cancer nonprofit called marathon and miracles and we were mostly alternative healthcare and and we would help people get solutions that were not necessarily the chemos and the radiations and the toxins and the and the medicines and pills, but things like Gerson you know, protocol with coffee enemas. I mean, these are the things that people don't know that they really really want. A drink Doritos, herring, a juice, drinking bitter green juice, right. That was something that people don't know that they don't want. So yeah, what are the what are the seven proven techniques and let's just go one by one and then kind of talk them out.
Norman Plotkin 10:08
All right, I've done Gerson, I've done Granny, Granny Smith, apple juice, you know, three days, nothing but, and those, those are powerful. Those are powerful methods. But the seven steps begins with radically change your diet. We have what's known today in America as the sad. Yeah, the standard American diet. And it's making people sick, processed foods, high fat, fast foods. It's really important to eat, to live and eat foods that are not processed. And so there's a whole there's a whole chapter on it, but a high level is Eat to Live and so radically change your diet.
Ari Gronich 10:56
Right. But Americans love to live to eat. Not not Eat to Live. Yeah. And, you know, they're unwilling to forego the fried chicken from Kentucky Fried or, or the MSG from places, you know, I mean, they're unwilling to do that. So how do we explain this in a way that somebody can say? I'm going to do that, because that sounds a lot better than having my organs eaten from the inside out. Right.
Norman Plotkin 11:27
So yeah, I mean, I deal with people who smoke cigarettes and the package on it says, Surgeon General says this could kill you. And they do it anyway. So. So that's one of the chapters to the subconscious mind, I'll get to that in a second. But because you know, change is hard to change. One thing in your life is hard to change seven things is nearly impossible for some, so radically change your diet, learn to meditate. getting control of your self talk is super important, because you're listening, and so is every cell in your body. So meditation, and getting control of your active mind, the mind can be the master or the slave.
Ari Gronich 12:07
Towards the end of this conversation, I just wanted to lead it back there because I want people to have tricks and tools and tips and things that they can do to make their life better, to make their communities better to make the relationships more rich and vibrant and lively. So that suicide is not even in their consciousness as an option. Because they always know there's somebody out there to help, there's some kind of hope, some kind of thing that they could do. And so I wanted to bring it back there. And I want you to just talk about that a little bit. You know, as a subconscious, mindfulness healing coach person, I know that that this is some of the stuff you have to deal with every single day.
Norman Plotkin 13:01
Love is our birthright. Love is God energy. Love, energy equals God, energy, whatever, by whatever name you call God, the divine. Having love in your heart space is your birthright. It's why you're here. And so, so often people wonder, why am I here? Why? These are all lessons, we're here, we signed up our soul. souls are eternal. We live we are eternal souls living a temporary biological existence in this very dense frequency that's known as Earth and emotion that lives here and people souls come here to learn about emotion because this is the only place that exists in the universe. And so each of these things are a lesson. I often find myself when I'm in my next embarrassing moment. Let me learn the lesson quickly. And, you know, what's, where's the lesson? Let me learn it quickly find the lesson, learn it quickly move on to my next embarrassing moment. But as long as we see it that way. You know, I mentioned earlier about the email I got from the guy who read my book and and credited the book with you know, having five months of chemo holiday and I, I asked myself, why did I get cancer? Why Why me? at all, this is great live, I thought that was great. Like, why did I have to get cancer What's the meaning of the cancer was to push through to find my true essential purpose in life, to be in the service of others using the power of the subconscious mind leading with love. And when I realized that the message of my channel Answer was to pull me out of a cesspool, and put me into a loving space helping others. When people leave my office, they float out of here feeling bad. And that just that lifts me up. That's, that's my reason for living. And so the pain of the cancer, emotion, emotional and physical. The fear was to direct me to my essential purpose to my soul's purpose. And once I realized that and stop asking why, why did this happen? Well, it was a lesson that I needed to learn and look what I learned it. Thank goodness, I did. And I did I learned it and it brought me to my soul's purpose. And so when you see that, the pain is a lesson. Then you dedicate yourself to learning what is the lesson here? making a game? Now it's a game, what is this pain? teaching me? What What should I learn so that I can move to the next lesson? That's what life is. It's a series of lessons. And if we get hung up on one, and give up, then what is this is what leads us to what's the purpose of life? Well, you forgot what the purpose of life was, you forgot that it's a series of lessons. So get in the game, and learn the lesson and move on to the next one. It may be painful, you may skin your knees. It may hurt your feelings. But do you know your life? And you do then what's the lesson here? Let me learn it quickly so that I can move on to the next lesson. That's why we're here. We're here to learn lessons so that our souls can evolve. If you get hung up on this is painful. You missed it, there's a lesson. And you missed the point of life. And when you remember, if you just fix in your mind that the point of life is to be here and to learn lessons and for our soul to grow and expand. And in so doing it expands others by our example. Right. And so it's in this way that we give meaning and value to our life. By understanding that this pain, there's some there's a lesson remember my favorite, oh, my favorite. The little boy who goes down the hallway and opens the door to his room and is full of horse poop. Nobody said there's a pony in here somewhere. So you see what I mean? Right? So, so bringing it bringing the discernment from your gut, to discernment. From your gut, what to then ask the question, what's the lesson here? Let me learn it quickly so I can move to the next lesson. The next lesson may be painful, accept it, accept that it may be painful, and learn it too. And at some point, the sun begins to rise. And the lessons are less painful. But now you're a teacher. Now you've had your shamanic journey, and now you're become a teacher for others. And that's what mine and yours I hear your story. And I've similar, you know, there was a there was pain, there was pain, and I've I've surveyed all of the all of the major religions I've tracked in in Nepal and studied Buddhism at the monkey temple. I, I my, my girlfriend is from China. And we study Taoism, you know, you talk about wanting to come to this country I have. She's a doctor of traditional Chinese medicine. And you know, she came here from China. And I know a lot of her friends who come here from China, they people are eager to come to this country, it's still the things that it was founded on, are still so using our discernment and keeping love in our heart space. And understanding that what may seem painful is a lesson and asking to learn the lesson quickly so that we might move on to the next. This is the meaning of life.
Ari Gronich 19:07
That's awesome. All right, three, count them three tips, tricks, actionable steps that can be immediately implemented. For anyone listening to this.
Norman Plotkin 19:24
Well, I have to apologize. We recovered them in this wide ranging, but I'm going to recap them here for you. Cool. Bre Bre, Bre breathe in through your nose and out through your mouth, do the box breathing if you need to. These are tactics that they teach people who are in high stress. And so breathing resets the autonomic nervous system. So anytime you're in a moment of stress. Deep breath into your nose,
Ari Gronich 19:52
caveat not your mouth. I have a caveat for that. Breathe in hose, not in through your mouth when you breathe in through your mouth. you excite your adrenal glands. When you breathe in through your nose, you calm your adrenal glands, thereby taking yourself out of fight or flight and into a more balanced, relaxed state. It's really good, by the way, for people who have massive anxiety disorders,
Norman Plotkin 20:18
absolutely enter the nose out through the mouth. Number two is love. Love is your birthright, it resides in your heart center. And if at any moment you don't feel that you're feeling loving, in your heart center, you're feeling fear. And that fear can be get so many other negative emotions and all it's really as simple as fixing in your mind, an icon that represents love for you, and then just imagining it in your heart space and bringing yourself into a place of love. Now, I in my spiritual journey, I have I have done, I have done a number on my ego, it used to be pretty big when I was a lobbyist. And I have reduced that ego to a very, very small now I just want to help people in the shortest amount of time, and there has to be going to be really good at what I do. But so in moments where I feel that ego creeping back in, I just come back to a place of love, I see a red rose, I see my little girl's face, you know, there are these things that just bring me immediately, my holding my mom's hand as she breathed their last breath at night, I was able to take her through hospice, and that just that moment, she brought me in, I escorted her out, and I was so grateful for that opportunity. But these are the things that represent love. And I bring that and fear melts away. So fear, love, not fear. And it's really as easy as that. And the third thing is back to Dr. Frankel, you are so powerful, and you leak your power, the moment you react to somebody without thought. So remember, between space, the space between action reaction, stimulus and response is your power. Because you get to decide what kind of human being you want to be those three things. They don't cost any money. They're easy to remember. And the upside for you is immeasurable.
Ari Gronich 22:11
That's awesome. I have I like to add caveats to things, I have a thing about ego. Because I don't think that ego is this nasty thing that everybody seems to think it is. To me, the nastiness is when the ego is above the commitment, thereby pushing the commitment down. When you have it the other direction and your commitment is here. And your ego is pushing your commitment. To me, that's where you want to be. Because you want that ego, that identity, to push your passion to push your commitment forward. To be competitive with yourself not with others, but with yourself to be better you every time. And your commitment is here. So that ego is is the power that's underneath. It's like the wind beneath my wings, right? So the egos that wind, but my wings is the commitment.
Norman Plotkin 23:13
Absolutely everything. Everything serves a purpose. And so, I mean, my business is Norman black in hypnotherapy. I mean, you can't remove myself from my ego and I'm pushing, I'm pushing my commitment. It's the same thing with liberty and responsibility, right, my Liberty ends where yours begins. And I enjoy Liberty because I have the responsibility to to you know, use it in a positive way. Right. So, absolutely. We don't want no ego. We just want in check under our commitment.
Ari Gronich 23:46
And so, Norman, how can people get ahold of you if they want to get ahold of you?
Norman Plotkin 23:51
I'm at Normanplotkin.com. And Normanplotkin.com. I'm on LinkedIn. Norman Plotkin Inc. Facebook. Norman Plotkin Inc. Instagram, Norman PlotkinCHT. All at Norman Plotkin for Twitter. I don't use that one very much. But
Ari Gronich 24:11
is there a lot of you because I know there's no more Oregon inches on the planet other than this one. So there's Is there any potkins?
Norman Plotkin 24:20
There are, believe it or not. There's a dentist in Monterey. There's a couple of attorneys. Yeah, there are other Norman potkins tune in you know, my grandfather came from the Ukraine in 1903. Turns out it means fisherman you know, the Black Sea there, you know that a lot of them. So at any rate, yeah, there are but none of none of them are hypnotherapists
Ari Gronich 24:42
gotcha. All right. So audience if you'd like to get ahold of Norman you can reach him at Norman Plotkin got anywhere.com basically anywhere you. You want to look social media wise, Facebook or Norman plotkin.com. So I really enjoyed this conversation. Norman. Thank you so much for being You hear and you have given a tremendous value to our guests or to our audience. And I appreciate it. Thank you so much. And this is Ari Gronich. This has been another episode of create a new tomorrow where we are teaching you tips and tricks to create a new tomorrow today. Thank you so much for being here. I look forward to the next one.