At the beginning of this century’s technological revolution, we were told that it would all result in a future world of luxury and convenience for everyone. A few decades later and it’s safe to say that is not what ended up happening. What went wrong, exactly? Mike Pepi, author of Against Platforms: Surviving Digital Utopia is here to talk to Jordan about it.

Also, Rob talks about the currently-unfolding Trump admin Group Chat scandal and what we can learn from the way that people in the media and politics are talking about it, and updates listeners on the start of Canadian election season.

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