This week Mathias and Daniel are sitting down with Jason Ralls to talk about his heathen spiritual practice and recent book of poetry The Oath: A Heathen Poets Journey. The Oath chronicles the transpositional  journey of the poet as he travels through the planes, meeting with gods, and even going through the underworld.

But of course that isn't all we'll be discussing this week. Other topics also include: magic mushrooms and other hallucinogens' and their effect on spiritual practice, the Ättestupa or did grandpa really have to jump off a cliff for the good of the village, and in impromptu positive review of the movie Midsommar. How did we get all of that into one episode? Well, it's complicated.

Also we know the audio on this weeks episode is a little spotty. Unfortunately some of our files didn't upload properly so we had to get ones from our backup which just isn't as good. We are looking into a long term fix but in the meantime please bear with us.

If you would like to check out the book you can find it here: linktr.ee/JasonRalls

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