What do you do when someone genuinely cares, keeps trying, and still can’t seem to follow through?

In this Walking With episode, Jonathan Kindler speaks directly to pastors, counselors, disciplers, and everyday believers who are sitting across from sincere people stuck in the gap between desire and action. Rather than defaulting to pressure or correction, this episode explores how follow-through often collapses not because of laziness, but because of fear, shame, misplaced trust, and the quiet weight of spiritual performance.

Through Scripture, story, and a composite case vignette, Jonathan shows how to read what’s actually happening beneath repeated start-and-stop cycles. You’ll learn how to name patterns without shaming, surface the beliefs holding the cycle together, and help someone take clear, faithful next steps rooted in dependence rather than self-effort.

If you’ve ever walked with someone who says, “I really want to change, I just keep falling apart,” this episode offers language, posture, and practical tools to help you walk with them wisely—without fixing, without hovering, and without turning growth into another burden.

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