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Ari Gronich 0:07  

Welcome back to another episode of create a new tomorrow. I'm your host, Ari Gronich. Remember to like, subscribe, rate review, comment below so that we can start conversations that create a new tomorrow. today. I've got with me Matt javit. And he is an amazing person five time international sales award winner, hosts of amazon prime video show world barber shop adventures, author of police and brotherhood and uniform around the world is a culture ambassador. Matt, why don't you tell us a little bit more about your story and how you got to this place of you know, being such as such success with large multinational as well as starting your own companies.

Matt Javit 0:55  

Yeah, thank you. I guess in that summary, you there's a lot of dreaming going on there and, and living out my dreams started off with in a humble beginning, my parents got pregnant at an early age. And so my dad had to join the Navy at age 17. And which started on my journey around the US as a Navy brat, getting my master's degree down in Texas, why coach basketball and a junior college and, and then started a small company, which brought me back to Indianapolis, Indianapolis was the favorite place for my parents. So when my dad retired from the Navy, they came back to India and it just made sense for me to get back closer to my family in running this this company with my brother, bartending at night hustling during the day, and net led into my wife walking in the door one day as I was bartending, I fell in love instantly. Her not so much. But I convinced her that this is a good idea. And we got engaged eight months later, got married eight months after that just celebrated 15 years. So I keep telling her it was the it was the right call at that time. And then her father helped me make sense that it wasn't a great idea for me to be a bartender and start my marriage with my wife, which led me into the mortgage industry had a great run in the in the mortgage industry before the recession hits. And then that changed everything. And thank God, I was recruited by a technology company to come in and start sales in a technology world which I knew nothing about, struggled my tail off for two years, but outwork the competition and just just really worked hard to understand it better and yet, improved my skills. And then then hit a hit a hot streak, which led into me winning five international sales awards, working for this amazing global company, based out of France. And the coolest thing about working for an international company is when they do their sales incentive awards for the sales folks. They take us to amazing places. And in this case, we had a chance to go to Istanbul, Turkey, go India, Chiang Mai, Thailand, Cape Town, South Africa. And when you're the kuna Miami, Florida, and on all those trips, when they take the top 40 sales professionals, we can also bring our wives and our spouses. So Nikki went along with me. February of 2017, single backpack a piece, we left for a one way ticket to Santiago, Chile, and spent 27 months traveling to 35 countries around the world and really just lived out that dream and just had an amazing time doing it. And it was it was such a blast. Wow.

Ari Gronich 3:33  

That is that's quite an adventurous, you know, adventurous story. You know, a lot of people are doing that nomadic traveling these days. And it's interesting to me because I believe that the only way to get out of our own heads and our own mindsets is to go see what the heads and mindsets are of other people and to explore their culture, and so on. So that's always been an interesting thing. To me, everywhere I've ever gone it you know, the attempt has been to not blend in, but ask a lot of questions about who they are and why they are the way they are. So tell me, what was your most fascinating place on this adventure?

Matt Javit 4:29  

Well, it's it's, there's a wide range because you look at a place like India, where we spent two and a half months. We were lucky enough to do it. I had a strong Indian friend base before we left so I had a chance to reach out and say, Hey guys, I'm going to be in your country for for two and a half months. Are there any places or friends or people I should see and they've been inviting us to to stay with their friends and family. We attended three weddings were actually kind of In three weddings. So we had a chance to really dive deep in that culture. Because we were living in the homes, a lot of quiet time, just talking in and hanging out with people. So India, it was an amazing adventure. And anybody that's ever been into India understands that it's different. It's so much different than America. So it's, it really opens up all your senses. To be driving down the road, I was on the back of the motorcycle on one one situation with my buddy. And he says, Hey, Matt, do you want to get fish for dinner? I was like, Yeah, that sounds cool. So he just pulls off. And there's a guy, clubbing, fresh fish that they just caught from a lake and skinning them and cutting them up, put them in a bag for you to take home. And that's that was dinner for the night. So things like that, where it's sensory overload on a regular basis. And you're really just getting to have a chance to, to just see things differently and just understand their culture a bit differently.

Ari Gronich 5:59  

Yeah, I mean, you can't take the car with you, you can't take the house with, you can't take any of those items with you. But you can take your memories with you and your muscle. And, you know, we've gotten as a culture away from traveling, because we've decided to create a lifestyle that is 40 to 80 hours a week of working and both partners working typically. So there's no time in that scenario for these journeys and trips. And I think the US is, on average, two weeks a year of vacation. Yeah. While the rest of the world is more like a month to two months, a year of vacation time. And how is it that we get Americans to start traveling again? And I know, it's weird to say it in this particular time period where everything is shut down? That's it, you know, how do we get people exploring other people's cultures in a way that moves our culture forward as well. So, you know, I remember hearing a story about somebody who went to another culture, so he went to France, and was expecting the French to speak English, and was really upset that, that they weren't speaking English to him, and that they didn't like him because he was expecting them to speak English to them. And I found it interesting to, you know, I think that's probably happens quite a lot that we want them, them, the others, the people and the other places that should only exist for our benefit to, to, to conform to the way that we are rather than looking at and appreciating and understanding that that culture and finding the beauty in in other people's cultures. Is that something that we saw

Matt Javit 8:21  

brother, yeah, it's one of the most annoying things you can see on travel. And it's, it's for those people that think that way. It's like, why even Why go there, if you want the same thing you're experiencing at home, why even go introduce yourself to another culture, if you're going to, if you're going to require people to act like they do in Des Moines, Iowa, or wherever you're from, you want to become an understand that you go to a Greek dinner, they're not going to clear the plates off for three hours. And you're going to sit there with dirty plates on your table, while you have a long conversation over coffee, you know, I mean, and that's the coolest thing about it is you get to see like, wow, they're they're in no rush to kick us out here, where in America, they're trying to flip the table to have somebody else sit in there, okay, with only having a certain amount of people in this in this restaurant at night. And they're not trying to get people in and out because they want you to enjoy the dinner and have a long conversation.

Ari Gronich 9:16  

Yeah, so what do you think of chores zones versus the the places that the locals, you know, go I mean, it everywhere I go, anytime I've ever been anywhere, my first thing is I do not want to be where the tourists go, I want to be where the locals go. And so I seek out specifically somebody who can take me to a local joint or a local place so that I can experience that local culture, but a lot of of Americans you know, I call it the McDonald's tour, because We go from McDonald's in France to McDonald's in Europe to a McDonald's in Israel, you know, like, like, how many different ways can we experience the McDonald's? Right. And, and we do that with more than just, you know, we'll go to the Hilton. Well, there's a lot of local kind of hotels that are completely different than, say, a Hilton in it. I'm not, you know, it could be any of the major chains, but we tend to go to the places that we know, in our minds, how do you think we can, we can, you know, inspire people to experience more of the local kinds of experiences rather than the tourist experiences that we've kind of set up?

Matt Javit 10:51  

Yeah, I think the first thing is the fear. Because that was the biggest thing people to ask us, as we were making this trip. Are you safe? Is everything okay? And it's like, Man, look in the mirror a little bit. how safe is your city? How safe the Chicago. I mean, I'll say the St. Louis, how safe is New York. So that safety barrier is always the thing that keeps them on resorts and keeps people in those in those four walls wherever they are in that foreign country. And for me, it's like being get get through that and not listen to what all the media is trying to tell you. Because mostly what we hear from the media is when something bad happens, a tsunami hits an island. There's some sort of revolt against the government. So we're only hearing like the negative stuff around the world that happens that mainstream media wants to put out there because it'll get the clicks and views that all negative news gets. And so if you if you can, like climb through all that and try to find the truth in what's going on in these places around the world, you're going to see a lot of beauty and a lot of amazing things happening outside of those resorts. And one of the coolest things that happened to me recently was one of my buddies that watched our journey from afar online. He listened to the bikes that I would give about getting out of the resorts and spending time with the locals. And he said, They recently went to Jamaica. And he said, Matt, we had an awesome trip down there. We spent, we spent almost two weeks on air, he said, but our favorite day, by far is when we left the resort, went to a local town and hung out with the locals at the local restaurants. He said we came back with a bunch of phone numbers. And they're they're still texting us. And it was the by far the best day. He said, thank you so much for that advice, because it's going to change the way that we travel now going forward. And it's things like that. They're like, yeah, if you get you can, you can see a beach coastline, anywhere around the world. And you wouldn't know if you were in Thailand, if you were in the Philippines, if you were in Peru, if you just saw the waves coming in at a gorgeous Hilton resort, like you're describing, you wouldn't know where you were. But it's when you get out of that place. And you go walk around the town, and you meet the locals. And you you shop at their markets, you see the things that they're they're eating on a regular basis, how they barter, the idea that America doesn't barter for everything, anything. And these places everywhere, everywhere else borders. So just that conversation of bartering. If they say it's $1 say it's I'll give you 80 cents, and just go through that process. You're gonna learn so much about these places and and really just follow up with them even more than just sitting in a hotel or, or just drinking. Cool. Yeah.

Ari Gronich 13:25  

You know, part of me thinks that racism is not just ignorant of people, but it's a lack of understanding of other, any kind of other, right, whether that's an other culture, another language, another colored, you know, color of a person. And it's based solely on fear versus knowledge. Because if you get to know somebody or know about their culture, it's really difficult. I've found to dislike those people. You've been in place where, you know, like Turkey where there is in that middle eastern zone, a lot of conflict. And the conflict that we hear about was not my experience when I was in Israel, for instance, where I went to Jordan and Lebanon. I didn't experience the same kind of difference that we see on the news. I don't know if you went there. I know you went to Turkey. But any any chance that the differences between the people are not as great as the government's and the agendas and the media want you to think

Matt Javit 14:57  

absolutely. I think I think races is just lack of exposure. And we we saw and had conversations about racism all around the world. And it was when we were in Chile, they hated the Peruvians in Argentina, and then we were in Peru, they hated the Colombians, and it's in the Chileans. And then, and then you're in South Africa, as a white guy at the grocery store, the black app, the black checkout lady is looking at us a different way, until we speak, and they understand where American they're like, Whoa, you're not the same white guy that's usually here. So they're nicer. We experience it everywhere. And it's one of those things where if you don't have exposure to a lot of the people in your, the frame of reference is one or two people, you're going to think about those one or two people. And that's why it was so important for me wherever we went, was to be the smiling nicest guy in the room. Because I wanted, I never knew if I was going to be the last white American that they met.

Ari Gronich 16:05  

That's awesome. Thank you so much for being here. If you could leave everybody with with one thought one final thought that is what you'd like, you know, all of these experiences that you've culminated together, you know, one thought that you'd like the audience members to get, what would that one thought be?

Matt Javit 16:30  

I would say that it's okay to want to live out your dreams. And it's okay to dream big and want to, to work through it and make it happen. Before we took this big adventure, there was no way I could live this out, I'd made every excuse in my mind why it just wasn't for me. And then finally a clip to say like, Hey, I can do this, too. And I'm sure there's there's a listener out there that saying, they've been dreaming about this for a while and thinking it's not. It's not possible for them. But I promise you, you can do it. We did it. And now I've got other dreams that I'm working on. And it's possible for you to do it as well. Awesome.

Ari Gronich 17:12  

Thank you so much for being here. I know that the audience members have gotten a lot from this. And this is your host Ari Gronich with another episode of create a new tomorrow. Remember to like, subscribe, rate review, comment below so that we can start conversations that change the world. Create a new tomorrow today, and activate our vision for a better world. Thank you for being here. I really appreciate it.

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