In this episode of the Hunt Test Hobo Podcast, Chris Rud sits down with Chris Jobman of The Flatlander Kennels Podcast for a deep dive into retriever training. The two discuss the value of crossover training between hunt tests and field trials, why following a structured program matters, and how to avoid confusing your dog with mixed methods. They break down practical drills like ABCDs, wagon wheels, and white coat setups, while also exploring the mental side of dog work—teaching dogs to handle pressure, suction, and stress. Whether you’re a seasoned pro or an amateur handler looking to sharpen your program, this conversation is packed with insights to help you build more confident, reliable, and successful retrievers.