“Tear up the road map”: Tim Goodman, chief television critic for The Hollywood Reporter, talks with Nancy about the art of the midlife pivot, how music can be a bonding activity with the next generation, and his three-part Elvis Costello dream date.

* Tim’s TV Talk Machine podcast

* The Bastard Machine blog at The Hollywood Reporter

Tim’s 2017 summer jam – “Gwan,” by Rostam

Nancy’s eternal summer jam – “Summertime” by DJ Jazzy Jeff and The Fresh Prince (heeyyyyy, 1991)

Thanks as always to M. The Heir Apparent, who provides the music behind the podcast – check him out here!