In this episode we sit down with Dr. Leo Guida from the Australian Marine Conservation Society for a long, open conversation about sharks, how they intersect with fishing and people using our waterways, and the real risks involved.

We talk through the data and trends, and importantly how effective current management strategies actually are when humans and sharks share the same spaces.

It is not a debate, more a pub-style back and forth, asking honest questions and digging into a topic I am genuinely on the fence about and keen to understand better.

More info at fishingworld.com.au.