The Decision Lab Podcast

Ep. 52: What Do You Do If Success Feels Empty? w/ Caleb Campbell


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In Today’s Episode: What Do You Do If Success Feels Empty?
Join us as we talk with Caleb Campbell — former NFL player, West Point graduate, and transformational speaker — who shares his insights on redefining success, healing from internal disconnection, and finding fulfillment beyond achievement.
Key Takeaways from Today’s Episode:
-Why high achievement can leave you feeling hollow — and what to do about it
-How internal family systems (IFS) and grief work unlock deep personal transformation
-The powerful role of vulnerability, surrender, and community in building a fulfilling life
Questions We Answer in This Episode:
-What happens when you reach your dream and still feel empty?
-How can achievers reconnect with the parts of themselves they’ve exiled?
-Why is grief essential for growth — even when no one has died?
(0:00) Introduction and background of Caleb Campbell
(0:20) Episode overview: From NFL to self-discovery
(1:18) Caleb Campbell on vulnerability and transformation
(3:37) Caleb's journey and the birth of the 'Achiever' part
(9:11) Self-worth, internal family systems, and major internal parts
(17:47) Exploring the 'wild child' and rediscovering oneself
(21:07) The continuum of self-awareness and striving for a meaningful life
(24:23) Grounding tools and Kabbalah principles for self-awareness
(31:38) Transitioning from survival to sacred dance
(33:46) Fostering internal conditions for authenticity
(37:19) Embracing life, trust, and underlying fears
(41:36) Techniques for nervous system safety and inner success
(44:29) Grief, radical acceptance, and moving to Los Angeles
(48:23) Meeting a soulmate and the importance of prioritizing relationships
(51:03) Relationship tools and emotional safety tactics
(57:53) Discussing caretaking and space in relationships
(1:00:17) Caleb Campbell's book: Six archetypes and healing myths
(1:03:34) Stillness, community's role in healing, and performative vulnerability
(1:09:28) Willingness, self-inventory, and teaching at West Point
(1:15:01) Redefining masculinity and the importance of grief
(1:19:23) Reflective questions and the poem "Lost"
(1:22:07) Caleb's upcoming book "Unstriving" and episode closing
(1:23:20) Episode wrap-up and call to action
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