JD Babb joins the podcast to break down one of the most interesting transitions in the retriever game—going from hunt tests to field trials.

We dig into what it actually takes to make that jump, the mistakes that will humble you fast, and why JD had to completely rethink how he trains dogs. From letting young dogs develop over time to handling massive all-age blinds, this episode is packed with real insight for anyone serious about improving.

JD also shares his journey—from throwing birds for beer money in college to building Bu-Yah Retrievers into one of the top open kennels in the country.

If you’ve ever wondered what separates hunt test success from field trial success… this is it.