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Ari Gronich 0:07  

Welcome back to another episode of create a new tomorrow I'm your host Ari Gronich and today with me is Esther blum. She is an integrative dietitian and a high performance coach and her her goal and she what she's done is helped 1000s of women permanently lose weight and eliminate the need for medication Lose Stubborn Belly Fat and reverse chronic illness. She teaches her clients to cultivate a warrior mindset when it comes to healing their relationship with food and unconditionally loving their bodies. Esther is the best selling author of cave women don't get fat. I like that title. Eat, drink and be gorgeous secrets of gorgeous and the eat, drink and be gorgeous project. She currently maintains a busy virtual practice where she provides 360 degrees of healing with physical, psychological, emotional and spiritual support. Esther has appeared on Dr. Oz the today show and Fox News Live. Welcome to the show. Esther, I really appreciate you coming on and taking out time. I know you have a very busy schedule. So thank you so much for being here. Thanks sorry for having me. So tell us a little bit about what got you started in the world of dietitian and then what kind of transitioned you from dietitian to integrative dietitian.

Esther Blum 1:34  

Um well I grew up in a medical family. My grandfather and father were both physicians. My grandfather was actually in ears, nose and throat doctor and an incredible surgeon. He was the tonsil, King of Brooklyn. And he trained my grandmother to be the anesthesiologist and the two of them took my tonsils out in their house in Brooklyn. My grandfather had an operating room, a treatment room, a consultation room and a 12 bed pediatric recovery room on the first floor of their house next to their kitchen and dining room. So you know, I grew up just thinking it was very normal for my grandfather to operate on me in his own home and my grandmother to put the ether mask over my face. So I was never even in the hospital really until childbirth. Um, so my father also was a gifted dermatologist who was a wonderful healer and I saw the two of them making house calls. You know, we would go up to my grandfather's farmhouse in Ridgefield, Connecticut on the weekends and the phone would ring and you know, they answering service with sad, like, speak to Dr. Blum. And we were like, Well, which one you know and so and they were just kind, compassionate people who did house calls and real country doctors. Even though my grandfather was in Brooklyn, and then my mother was a nurse. And we had lots of pharmacists in our families. So I grew up around medicine, it was comfortable around it was discussed at our dinner table for better or for worse. And I knew that I was interested in it. I always did well in school, but I didn't want to go to medical school. And my my grandfather said, What are you what are you thinking? I said, I think I want to be a dietitian, because it's all the pre med requirements. Basically, it's a little less physics, but it's all pre med. But none of the you know, residency. I mean, I had an internship, but it wasn't like this intense residency. And my grandfather said, What are you doing? That's like the biggest mistake, you're never going to be a success or make any money. And I was like, Oh, it's on it is so on right now. So I obviously have made money and been a success and said, proved him wrong. And he became my greatest champion. So why do you think what's what's what's your reasoning? Having been on both sides of, of the industry?

Ari Gronich 4:05  

Why do you think the language is so completely different between the two, and the studies, the research, the science, that everything that we look at? You know, I've I've been trained in functional medicine and have an immense amount of pain when it comes to seeing how much is missed in translation. And I'll give you a quick example. I had a family member who sent me all his labs, and his doctor was a traditional doctor basically said nothing was wrong with them. And I started going through on a functional lab level, and I kept looking at all these different numbers that were in the normal for the pathological numbers. But completely outside of functional. And as I looked through this, I was going, I basically figured out that this person was in liver failure. Like, with through the combination of things that were off, it was pretty clear picture. But the doctor said, Oh, you're perfectly fine. And so that's kind of the thing that bog bugs the crap out of me. So why do you think that it's so lost in translation between functional medicine and Western medicine?

Esther Blum 5:36  

Yeah, I don't have all the answers on where the gap lies. But I will say money is a big piece of it. You know, there's big Ag and Big Pharma. And, you know, for dieticians, the food guide pyramid is sponsored heavily by, you know, the dairy board, the grain board, not so much the meat board, right me gets all this horrible press, even though pastured meat is the most sustainable practice that we have in supporting agriculture and regenerative farming. So, yeah, I think there's a lot more money behind that, or there's money behind drug companies saying, you know, oh, you're not you're your mortality rate is much less when you take Lipitor every day or you take a stat and every day and your cholesterol needs to be lower and lower and lower and lower when cholesterol used to be 200 plus your age, we need cholesterol to support libido to make testosterone, estrogen, progesterone. Be fertile. You know, feel good brain

Ari Gronich 6:44  

function,

Esther Blum 6:46  

function, healthy hair, skin, nails, fight depression, ADHD, gut health, all those things. So yeah, I think it's money, even though it's silly, because there's play money to be made and supplements too. If people are smart, they jump on that bandwagon. But yeah, it's a it's a lot harder to say, you know, eat a serving of blueberries every day for brain health, right? versus like, well, you can just take this drug or you know, so it's, I think you're constantly battling many This is this country puts the health of the pocketbook or the wallet way ahead of the health of the people, profits over people's I'm trying to say,

Ari Gronich 7:25  

right, so I heard a saying recently, and it went something along the lines of you eat vegetables to detoxify, and then you eat to heal. Oh, I love that. Oh, that is brilliant. Yeah. What do you think of that?

Esther Blum 7:41  

I mean, that's brilliant. Yes, I mean, but me helps detoxify, too, if you don't have enough protein, it's really hard to get your liver to conjugate, you know, essential amino acids and heal and detox your body. So, but you know, it is interesting. I do have there is a caveat to this. And I do have some clients that when I increase their meat, they gain weight, and they're, they can't process all the fat. So some people I actually have to go on the plant based route for about four to six months sometimes to really clean up their liver and do a good detox that's more plant based and then go back to the Paleo it depends on someone's starting point, someone is super, super obese. And their cortisol is off the charts. You know, it's we we tried different approaches there at the high meat doesn't always work. It depends.

Ari Gronich 8:43  

Right?

Esther Blum 8:44  

Yes, for a healthy normal, you know, reasonable weight, someone's within their target range, then yeah, I believe that I think you do need a balance of meat and poultry and fish and vegetables to really see tax buy in and organ meats, and build muscle support bone density,

Ari Gronich 9:05  

right? You know, when I look at human beings and how we used to eat, then I look at animals and, you know, they talk about vegetables and how you can build muscle with with just eating vegetables and being a vegetarian, but I look at at animals that are on a plant based diet. And they're typically very large. And then I look at animals that are predator animals, and they're typically very small but muscular, and powerful. And, you know, so you have slow and large on a plant based diet. But yet, we get told all the time lately, especially about these plant based diets being the healthiest thing we could do and then now they're coming out with all these plant based meats that are I don't know what you think of them.

Esther Blum 10:06  

I'm like a chemical shitstorm I mean, I was talking about this with my son. You know, he's he's almost 14, I'm like, stay the hell away from that crap. He's like, Mom, I would never be vegan, I just wouldn't do it. You know, again, it goes back to money. Like it's um, you know, Bill Gates is taking over a lot of our farmland that is producing GMO based crops. That the beyond burgers and the pea proteins any time there is, you know, that type of plant based versus actual clinical research. It's, there's money behind it, people have money to gain from it.

Ari Gronich 10:47  

Gotcha. So, I had a dietician Tell me one time, as she was drinking a diet soda in my presence. He said, something along the lines of I like to eat my calories, not drink them. Uh huh. What do you think of that statement? And people who think that diet sodas are so much better, or diet foods in general are so much better than natural foods?

Esther Blum 11:15  

Yeah, well, that's I mean, your body your choice. So you want to put crap that, you know, interferes with proper neurotransmitter function in your brain, knock yourself out. But you know, and yes, you you don't want to get your calories from orange juice or, you know, necessarily sodas or anything like that. But sometimes drinking calories can actually be nutritious. If I can get someone to get a protein shake, where they're getting 50 grams of protein. Instead of eating to eggs where they're getting 14 grams of protein, I am going to say drink your drink your calories and put some fiber in there, put some tea and flaxseed and put a low glycemic fruit and some veggies if you want and drink it all at once. Don't like sip it over hours of the day where you're messing with your blood sugar, so much. So it's really time in place, I mean, hypocrisy of bounds and dive in dietetics professions.

Ari Gronich 12:15  

So let's talk a little bit about lentils and lectins and night shades and inflammatory foods. Yeah, and, you know, even like tomatoes, I had a, I had a client one time, paid me for a six month package. And after going through everything at the very beginning and doing all the testing and all that stuff. We were putting her on an elimination plan. And she was Italian. And she said, keep your money. I can't not eat tomatoes. And I said it's only three weeks, and she wouldn't she couldn't not eat the tomato. But, you know, let's talk a little bit about that kind of unpack this because everybody's getting their information from Dr. Google right now. And and I'm not sure Dr. Google has all of the correct information, you know, readily available in a way that search.

Esther Blum 13:19  

Yeah, well, when it comes to elimination diets, you know, it's it's tricky, right? Because if somebody has a lot of people who I cheat, for example, have h pylori, or like real active H. pylori, or with having symptoms, or they have parasites, or they have leaky gut or cebo. So under those circumstances, right, you're you with an inflamed gut wall, and you're adding gasoline to the fire when you put those inflammatory foods into your system, right? That foods that you're sensitive to. And often the foods that you're the most sensitive to are the ones that you're eating every day, already anyway. So you can do food allergy testing during those times, but it's going to show up, you know, you're going to show up with 2030, even 40 allergies. That's how you really know you have a leaky gut. By the way, the more allergies you have tells us a lot about your gut.

Ari Gronich 14:15  

Yeah, just unpacking I think, for people what, you know, they hear all these fad diets and fad things and not know how to navigate. Yeah, yes. And so they end up you know, you'll end up Okay, we're on the keto this week and intermittent fasting that week and paleo the other week, and we just keep switching because we're not getting the answer we want. And, and, you know, with with my patients, I always said well, in functional medicine, we test Yeah, so that we're not, you know, throwing darts at a dartboard. But, but people don't really understand what all of these things are. They just look I mean, I still don't know if anybody knows if milk is good for you or bad for you, you know what I mean? Like, you have both sides of the equation. So I wanted a little bit.

Esther Blum 15:12  

Yeah, well and so much of your your food can be it, there's so many factors, right? Okay, fine, you can find out where your genetics are, you know, you see people in certain Nordic cultures eating attended dairy and are very lean and healthy. But where the cows given hormones were the cows fed GMO grains. Are they exposed to a lot less pesticides and GMOs in our food that are creating the leaky gut? You know, I think if we had if we all had better gut integrity, we tolerate a lot more foods. To your point like is milk good or bad for you? To me, it's, it's what you're eating. It's what you're absorbing that is far more important to me than worrying about the semantics rain. In theory, you know, dairies got, it's got sugar, but it also has a lot of protein. I mean, cottage cheese, to me is a is a power food for a lot of people. So if my people tolerate it and say, Yeah, I tell her dairy fine, and they're not having gut issues and like, go for it. You know, it's it's a lot more fun and easier to work with someone who has that much flexibility in their diets for sure.

Ari Gronich 16:20  

Yeah, that's one of the interesting things, I find that when you eliminate something like I don't eat sugar things, and I don't drink juices and stuff like that. And every now and then, if I even go for a sip of orange juice, or apple juice or something like that, I need to dilute it by like, 10 to one. Oh, yeah, with water, I mean, like, literally this much juice to the rest of the glasses, water, because otherwise, it's just too sweet. And it's ridiculously too sweet. And so, you know, here's a figure, and I don't remember the exact figure, but I think it was somewhere around one gram of sugar, or one and a half grams of sugar in your bloodstream naturally is about the 90, you know, that the 75 to 95, or whatever blood sugar ratio. And so the amount of sugar that we're eating in our diet, I mean, if you could imagine a gram and a half is what your blood sugar should be? How many grams? Do you put into one cup of coffee? And then how many cups of coffee? And then how many, right? things that you're eating, that you wouldn't necessarily think have sugar in them have sugar added into them. And that that goes along with the genetically modified foods, because as you probably are aware, an apple 50 years ago, had about a 10th of the amount of sugar that an Apple has now. And you have to have about 10 apples to get the equivalent nutritive value as an apple 50, you know, in the 50s. So how does somebody, you know, navigate this entire world of what we've done, to our health into our environment and to the way in which we consume.

Esther Blum 18:30  

And now ignorance really was bliss in this in this a couple ways. Okay. One is try and look at the big picture, because at the end of the day, you know, um, there was a great study mercola published years ago about how like, even if you're eating non organic veggies, you're still getting benefits, okay, and the nutrient content is far less than what our grandparents had, our parents had even we had growing up. But if it runs, flies, swims or grows from the ground, it's still real food. And I see people healing their bodies eating in perfectly, not everything's organic. But if they're eating a lot of fruits and veggies and real food, compared to their starting point, they're going to heal much better.

Ari Gronich 19:19  

Thank you so much for being here. You know, every episode I like to to leave the audience with doable things so that they can create a new tomorrow today and activate their vision for a better world. So thank you so much for activating your vision. And not just that, but coming out into the public. You know, I like to say, silence is a bully's best friend. So let's get loud. And I appreciate everybody who comes on to the show getting loud and going up against the bullies like big agriculture, big pharmaceutical, big medicine and general And, and saying, Hey, here's here's the truth. We don't know about this science because it's been paid for and bought. But we do know that based on these 1000s of years, and what we can say is if you eat this amount of food, you're going to be healthier and if you get about this amount of walking in and this amount of movement, so I appreciate all of your wisdom. Thank you so much for coming on. I know you're busy. So thank you. And this has been another episode. So thank you so much for listening. And hopefully you have gotten an amazing amount of things that you can do right now, to create your new tomorrow today. We'll see you next time.