This podcast includes adult language and mature difficult themes about abuse, addiction, loss, and a dark sense of humor to face the trauma. Sensitive ears should steer clear, and people that are easily offended. This is a candid conversation between two men who have some deep scars, and who have overcome obstacles to help others. Zack from More Heart Than Scars shares his incredible story of overcoming a horrific injury as a kid, and how that same injury played into his decision to get into the work that he does now. Zack and I talk about his upbringing, his life, and the reason behind starting More Heart Than Scars. We talk about how he ended up teaming up with the founder and CEO of Spartan race, Joe Desena. Zack works at the Black Mountain Academy in North Carolina with Autistic children and is making a profound difference