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Today I am here with Kyle Davies. He is a chartered psychologist, therapist, coach, trainer, author. Is the creator of Energy Flow Coaching, which is a framework for tapping in our innate ability to attain optimum health, wellbeing, creativity, clarity and mind. You know, Kyle and I have have been friends for a long time. I was on his show. I don't know many, many eons ago. And it's so good to have him with us.
Episode Highlights
Kyle [00:03:27] So since I've been in that world for the most part and since then, really, I I've I do corporate work as well now because the whole kind of idea of wellbeing in the last few years is as developed within organizations. And I think there is this ignition that's to, you know, in order to have people be engaged and productive, ideally, they need to be have a sense of purpose, have a sense of meaning and be reasonably happy. So at the moment, my working life comprises both a combination of private therapy, work, working with sufferers of chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, irritable bowel anxiety, depression, and then the corporate work where I'm accommodation of kind of coaching workshops, where I'm helping people, I suppose, get the best out of themselves. And as you said in that that intro, getting mental clarity really to be able to help people kind of perform effectively. So that's a bit of a nutshell of where I was and where I am now.
Ari [00:07:56] Yeah. You know, the thing that that strikes me every time I talk to anybody about National Healthcare Service versus insurance based like it is here in the US, is that really there's very little difference between the kind of care we get. It's it's more about who's paying versus based on results. There are some countries that have more of a results based versus procedure based system.
Kyle [00:09:16] I'm addressing it from a perspective of what I suppose you could say. It's function. I'm not a trained functional practitioner, but I'm I'm approaching it. I suppose there are some fundamental pieces. So I'm approaching it from a perspective that stress is is basically the underpinning cause. But I'm looking at stress, not from a psychological perspective, but from a perspective that the stress response in the body is largely the same, regardless of the stress. So that could mean that the environment, be it something physical, something emotional, stress response, is pretty much the same. And that's, I suppose, the basic tenets of my approach.
Ari [00:12:52] You know that that's a thing that, as you know, I've I've worked with emotional release, somatic body work for a long time. And it's probably some of my favorite work is the issues are in the tissues. Let's get it out of the tissues. The number one cause of all diseases is stress. And it's, I think, considered the third or fourth contributing cause of death, but it contributes to all other diseases as well. So, you know, here, here's the thing. We're going to end the call. But I end this always asking three actionable steps that somebody can take right now who's listening to shift their health, to shift their world so that they can create a new tomorrow within themselves.
Ari [00:14:44] Well, so. So let's talk about just a couple of actionable ways. So you're saying focus on yourself to be present. Do you have a technique or a tool that somebody can take away right now and use to do that more appropriately? Because you can say something like be more present with yourself. But a lot of people really don't know how to do that.
Kyle [00:17:46] That really probably should be a foundational piece for everybody. You know, it's just not breathing properly, whether you want it to come to a breathing course or whether you just want it getting to your body and breathe a little bit more. I mean, that's how I started. But a lot of anxiety and depression is when I was between my late teens, early 20s and most of it. There's a number of factors, but most of it was because I just lived in my head. So I force myself out of my head, were very heads orientated culture or cultures. So I had to force myself out of my head. One of the ways I did that was just bringing my attention back to my breathing and feeling what it what it would feel like in my party, being aware of the tensions. Being aware that the feelings, just observing them are not. I didn't I hadn't read anything to to encourage me to do that. I've just sort of naturally did that. So but that I would say is that would be my number one.
Resources and Links
- https://CreateANewTomorrow.com
- https://www.facebook.com/arigronich
- https://energyflowcoaching.com/
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-davies-b5b59715/?originalSubdomain=uk
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Ari&Kyle1.mp3
Ari [00:00:01] Has it occurred to you that the systems we live by are not designed to get results. We pay for procedures instead of outcomes, focusing on emergencies rather than preventing disease and living a healthy lifestyle. For over 25 years, I've taken care of Olympians, Paralympians, A-list actors and Fortune 1000 companies. If I did not get results, they did not get results. I realized that while powerful people who controlled the system want to keep the status quo. If I were to educate the masses, you would demand change. So I'm taking the gloves off and going after the systems as they are. Join me on my mission to create a new tomorrow as a chat with industry experts. Elite athletes thought leaders and government officials about how we activate our vision for a better world. We may agree and we may disagree, but I'm not backing down.
Ari [00:00:50] I'm Ari Gronich and this is. Create a new tomorrow podcast.
Ari [00:01:00] And welcome back to another episode of Create a New Tomorrow.
Ari [00:01:04] This is your host, Ari Gronich, and I am here with Kyle Davies. He is a chartered psychologist, therapist, coach, trainer, author. Is the creator of Energy Flow Coaching, which is a framework for tapping in our innate ability to attain optimum health, wellbeing, creativity, clarity and mind. You know, Kyle and I have have been friends for a long time. I was on his show. I don't know many, many eons ago. And it's so good to have him with us. Kyle, why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself and how you became who you are?
Kyle [00:01:44] It's great to be back. It it's great to see you again, I should say. Thanks for having me on the show. And so a little bit about me. I mean, as you said, I'm a psychologist by trade. And I I guess I've done a few things, really. I started out my career in business consulting, doing various things, kind of moved into healthcare. I was just really interested in getting into people, I suppose, in business consulting. You working with an individual in their role. Sydney, 20 odd years ago when I started doing that. Where is I wanted to get a little bit deeper. I wanted to help people make transformations and make kind of profound changes in their lives. So I went and did lots of therapy, training, and then got involved with a medical doctor here in the UK who had a particular interest in chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia and what medicines at the time referred to as functional symptoms and syndromes. I know that's kind of changed nowadays. There's been a variety of names over the years, but the show we work together, we we evolved a process which is a mind body process and backing this beauty to thousands. Really back in those days, there wasn't huge acceptance, I suppose, of the notion of mind body approaches. There was there was in the kind of the spiritual world, but certainly in mainstream things are very much viewed as a separate mind or mental and physical body. And so we were looking at these kinds of health challenges from a perspective that, well, a body and brain that's in a perpetual state of stress ultimately breaks down and leads to a series of symptoms. And it could be quite a wide range of symptoms.
Kyle [00:03:27] So since I've been in that world for the most part and since then, really, I I've I do corporate work as well now because the whole kind of idea of wellbeing in the last few years is as developed within organizations. And I think there is this ignition that's to, you know, in order to have people be engaged and productive, ideally, they need to be have a sense of purpose, have a sense of meaning and be reasonably happy. So at the moment, my working life comprises both a combination of private therapy, work, working with sufferers of chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, irritable bowel anxiety, depression, and then the corporate work where I'm accommodation of kind of coaching workshops, where I'm helping people, I suppose, get the best out of themselves. And as you said in that that intro, getting mental clarity really to be able to help people kind of perform effectively. So that's a bit of a nutshell of where I was and where I am now.
Ari [00:04:31] Yeah, absolutely. You know, it sounds like you're doing some amazing things and you're in you're in Wales, correct? I'm in Wales. OK. So Wales is different than the US, obviously. And, you know, some of the things that that I have found as I've been teaching and training people in other countries is that the systems are so different. And it you know, it's hard. I wrote my course for the U.S. market. And when I was teaching somebody who was in the UK. It was very different because of the National Health Service, you know, and and some of those things. What are some of the the challenges and problems that you've had to face and some of the benefits that you've been able to to have from the system of in the UK?
Kyle [00:05:26] I think in terms of challenges, probably the major thing is that because of the National Health Service, despite the national. The idea in principle, I think being brilliant is that everybody gets health care. The downside of it is that people become reasonably passive in relation to health care. So whereas in the US. From what I understand, you can you can select your primary care physician, whereas in the UK, if somebody has a problem, they immediately go to their GP and if they want to see a specialist, they need to be referred from their GP. And whatever problem the person has, they will go to their GP. And again, because the way that's paid for is if your unemployed person. A proportion of your income is taken every month before you can see it. So it's almost kind. This is always a feeling that health care is free. So I think what the you know, the kind of end result of that for people like me is that there is possibly a or historically there's been a reluctance to go outside of the national health and pay for treatments. But also there's nothing else to say because because people automatically follow that route. There is a tendency to be reasonably passive when approaching health care. So those are probably the sort of the the downsides, I would say, of the healthcare system over here. Say, I think it's great because it means that people get health care and don't have to worry about that. And certainly in Wales, it's even to the extent that you will if you're prescribed a medication by your GP, you get that free or free university comes. It's paid for by national health. And that was one of the things that we've just had with a whole kind of Covid thing is, is that the main issue was that the main concern seemed to be that the health care service, the NHS, wouldn't be able to cope if, you know, a huge number of a huge proportion of people got ill. So that's that's the sort of the the the down side. On the plus side, as opposed to a certain extent, if that answers the question.
Ari [00:07:56] Yeah. You know, the thing that that strikes me every time I talk to anybody about National Healthcare Service versus insurance based like it is here in the US, is that really there's very little difference between the kind of care we get. It's it's more about who's paying versus based on results. There are some countries that have more of a results based versus procedure based system.
Ari [00:08:26] But in both the UK and the US, the really the difference that that I've seen is a difference in who's paying versus the difference in actual system of medicine.
Ari [00:08:42] It's kind of frustrating to me to to learn about, you know, the different countries and the different systems of healthcare.
Ari [00:08:52] You know, what are are some of the things like I ask because you have training in the mindset, but you also have training in some of the functional medicine side of things.
Kyle [00:09:04] So I don't actually know that I'm not trained in functional medicine stuff.
Ari [00:09:08] OK. So you're addressing the stress of anxiety and chronic fatigue through a mindset approach?
Kyle [00:09:16] I'm addressing it from a perspective of what I suppose you could say. It's function. I'm not a trained functional practitioner, but I'm I'm approaching it. I suppose there are some fundamental pieces. So I'm approaching it from a perspective that stress is is basically the underpinning cause. But I'm looking at stress, not from a psychological perspective, but from a perspective that the stress response in the body is largely the same, regardless of the stress. So that could mean that the environment, be it something physical, something emotional, stress response, is pretty much the same. And that's, I suppose, the basic tenets of my approach.
Kyle [00:09:55] So I'm looking at it like, OK, so you could have a car accident, you could fall down a flight of stairs, you can have a really bad diet. You could lose a job. You can have a bad case of flu, there's any you know, you could be sleeping really badly. All of those things trigger their stress. And I'm looking at it in a very simplified, practical way. But the idea that, well, they're all they are all going to trigger stress at some level in the body. And it's the the combined impact of all of those things that will then results in the production of symptoms. All the bodies of body and brain stress response being stuck on the idea of that will, when the stress response is stuck on that causes a an impact or causes the systems of the bottom to be dysfunctional. So you or two Dabic nervous system, the immune system, that endocrine system, they will kind of out of whack. So that's that's the principle of it. And it's looking at from a perspective of what they're kind of pillars of health. So we need to really look at our sleep.
Kyle [00:11:00] We need to look at our nutrition. We need to look at our movement fundamentally. For me, I think I see emotion as being the biggest piece. But I'm not looking at emotion from a cognitive perspective as such. I'm looking at an emotion as being, you know, this complex physiological process that affects basically all of the body and all of the brain. So I'm trying to break down the barriers of the kind of the mind polity that. All right. Well, this person deals with mental stuff. This person is with physical stuff. So I recognize that some level well, there's organic things in the body and there are things you could talk about with mindset. But in terms of impact, does it say for me what's missing, especially when you're looking at emotion, you're looking at something which is a mind body process. So in terms of the work that I do, yes, I do look at sleep. I do look at nutrition. I do look at exercise. I find for the most part those those are reasonably tangible. And it's not that they're an easy fix, but they are tangible and that, you know, you can give step by step procedures, whether it's when it comes to emotion. Emotion is is deep. It's tricky. There are spiritual aspects to that because it connects to, well, who am I? My sense of me and how I relate to life, my identity, so much of my work is about getting into that that deeper side of things. So I try to view it is to a certain extent it's functional because I'm looking at it from a holistic perspective. But as I say, probably the focus and it can be because of where I come from. But my belief is that the biggest contributory factors to the conditions I'm working with are unprocessed, blocked or imbalanced emotion.
Ari [00:12:52] You know that that's a thing that, as you know, I've I've worked with emotional release, somatic body work for a long time. And it's probably some of my favorite work is the issues are in the tissues. Let's get it out of the tissues. The number one cause of all diseases is stress. And it's, I think, considered the third or fourth contributing cause of death, but it contributes to all other diseases as well. So, you know, here, here's the thing. We're going to end the call. But I end this always asking three actionable steps that somebody can take right now who's listening to shift their health, to shift their world so that they can create a new tomorrow within themselves.
Kyle [00:13:41] Three actual steps. I think that's what we know, is that changing behavior is quite tough and people tend to behave at an unconscious pattern. I think the probably the the most important things are being more present, paying attention to oneself a little bit more and how and how you feel knowing that. All right. Well, actually, I feel is quite important, really. And so I need to let myself feel we live in a very externally focused culture where we block how we feel. So that that's that's probably the that's the major thing is I'll allow what you feel. Recognize that putting yourself first is not being selfish. So I'm honoring what you feel. Speaking and acting from your truth, not your view. And that is what will self self first is not selfish. So. I didn't get the last three, but those are the kinds of things really. Without going into much deeper stuff.
Ari [00:14:44] Well, so. So let's talk about just a couple of actionable ways. So you're saying focus on yourself to be present. Do you have a technique or a tool that somebody can take away right now and use to do that more appropriately? Because you can say something like be more present with yourself. But a lot of people really don't know how to do that.
Kyle [00:15:08] No, they don't. I suppose the thing that I start with my clients is this coming what I had on the back of this as well, something I start on with my clients is just having them breathing in in a conscious or optimal way, which is I am not looking because breathing in the work that I do is is a foundation rather than a it's a you know, it's it's meant to pull people back into their body. It's not meant as a tool to alleviate symptoms. So I don't I'm not looking for any kind of complex behavior patterns. You know, if people want to do yoga. Breath work, Brilliant. What I have people do say we'll just come back into your body at various times through the day as you catch your attention or you can set something on your watch and just pay attention to your breathing and feel yourself towards a natural rhythmic breathing for yourself. Ideally, a little bit slower and a little bit deeper. Now, that could be you. You breathe in for a count of three and out four to five. I never if I'm never in favor of forcing something. So that's comfortable breathing from the balance of a slower, deeper way. That's a brilliant way of beginning to come into the party. So he is. So that's. So that's. That would be one thing. He isn't just a little bit in terms of the way I work with the idea of tools and techniques.
Kyle [00:16:30] It tends to be the case that people, in my experience, always revert back to what they normally do because their behavior is unconsciously driven. If people stop doing it too little technique, very often they'll do it for a little bit and then they'll stop and they'll either revert back to what they were doing before or the brain. It's in its attempt to seek novelty will look for the next thing. What I try to do it is what I do is have more understanding. If people can understand where the nature of their experience comes from, what gives rise to my construction of reality, what gives rise to my buy mood or gives rise to my feelings? Where does all that come from? When people begin to understand all that, they can then adjust themselves because they begin to have read, have realizations and insight into. All right. I can begin to see how I'm creating that for myself. Now, in doing that, I find that people can naturally adjust rather than having a will give me a tool or a technique. Now, there are kind of little tools and exercises as part of what I do with people, but I've just kind of given that as a as a foundational principle. That's kind of one of the ideas for breathing. I mean, you can't go wrong, can you, in terms of that?
Kyle [00:17:46] That really probably should be a foundational piece for everybody. You know, it's just not breathing properly, whether you want it to come to a breathing course or whether you just want it getting to your body and breathe a little bit more. I mean, that's how I started. But a lot of anxiety and depression is when I was between my late teens, early 20s and most of it. There's a number of factors, but most of it was because I just lived in my head. So I force myself out of my head, were very heads orientated culture or cultures. So I had to force myself out of my head. One of the ways I did that was just bringing my attention back to my breathing and feeling what it what it would feel like in my party, being aware of the tensions. Being aware that the feelings, just observing them are not. I didn't I hadn't read anything to to encourage me to do that. I've just sort of naturally did that. So but that I would say is that would be my number one.
Ari [00:18:43] Awesome. So, you know, when I used to do a lot of corporate gigs, I would talk to people about standing up and breathing, because if you're sitting down and breathing, your diaphragm is cutting off your lung capacity by about 50 percent. And so you're only drawing in so much nutrients, so much oxygen, so much that you can process and use for brain health, which is why people go to work and get brain fog a lot. And so if you stand up and extend your torso, all of a sudden you're taking your lungs off of your diaphragm and you're able to do full belly breaths. And that brings more oxygen, more nutrients to the cells, more oxygen and nutrients to your brain, which then makes you a little clearer, a little more cognitive and have the ability to handle stress at a much deeper level. So that is a fantastic. You know, piece of tool for for the listeners. And, you know, I'll have to have you on again. We're gonna do this again. Thank you so much for being here. Kyle, where where can people who want to get a hold of you. Get a hold of you? What's what's some information that they can check in with you?
Kyle [00:19:57] My Web site is energycoaching.com. My I'm on social media, on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn and energy flow coaching,.
Ari [00:20:08] Energyflowcoaching.com.
Ari [00:20:10] Kyle Davis, thank you so much for being here on another episode of Create a New Tomorrow. I'm your host, Ari Gronich, and I look forward to hearing from you and seeing you on the next episode. Thank you so much. Have a healthy day.
Ari [00:20:27] Thank you for listening to this podcast. I appreciate all you do to create a new tomorrow for yourself and those around you. If you'd like to take this information further and are interested in joining a community of like minded people who are all passionate about activating their vision for a better world, go to the Web site, createanewtomorrow.com and find out how you can be part of making a bigger difference.
Ari [00:20:49] I have a gift for you just for checking it out and look forward to seeing you take the leap and joining our private paid mastermind community. Until then, see you on the next episode.
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Today I am here with Kyle Davies. He is a chartered psychologist, therapist, coach, trainer, author. Is the creator of Energy Flow Coaching, which is a framework for tapping in our innate ability to attain optimum health, wellbeing, creativity, clarity and mind. You know, Kyle and I have have been friends for a long time. I was on his show. I don't know many, many eons ago. And it's so good to have him with us.
Episode Highlights
Kyle [00:03:27] So since I've been in that world for the most part and since then, really, I I've I do corporate work as well now because the whole kind of idea of wellbeing in the last few years is as developed within organizations. And I think there is this ignition that's to, you know, in order to have people be engaged and productive, ideally, they need to be have a sense of purpose, have a sense of meaning and be reasonably happy. So at the moment, my working life comprises both a combination of private therapy, work, working with sufferers of chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, irritable bowel anxiety, depression, and then the corporate work where I'm accommodation of kind of coaching workshops, where I'm helping people, I suppose, get the best out of themselves. And as you said in that that intro, getting mental clarity really to be able to help people kind of perform effectively. So that's a bit of a nutshell of where I was and where I am now.
Ari [00:07:56] Yeah. You know, the thing that that strikes me every time I talk to anybody about National Healthcare Service versus insurance based like it is here in the US, is that really there's very little difference between the kind of care we get. It's it's more about who's paying versus based on results. There are some countries that have more of a results based versus procedure based system.
Kyle [00:09:16] I'm addressing it from a perspective of what I suppose you could say. It's function. I'm not a trained functional practitioner, but I'm I'm approaching it. I suppose there are some fundamental pieces. So I'm approaching it from a perspective that stress is is basically the underpinning cause. But I'm looking at stress, not from a psychological perspective, but from a perspective that the stress response in the body is largely the same, regardless of the stress. So that could mean that the environment, be it something physical, something emotional, stress response, is pretty much the same. And that's, I suppose, the basic tenets of my approach.
Ari [00:12:52] You know that that's a thing that, as you know, I've I've worked with emotional release, somatic body work for a long time. And it's probably some of my favorite work is the issues are in the tissues. Let's get it out of the tissues. The number one cause of all diseases is stress. And it's, I think, considered the third or fourth contributing cause of death, but it contributes to all other diseases as well. So, you know, here, here's the thing. We're going to end the call. But I end this always asking three actionable steps that somebody can take right now who's listening to shift their health, to shift their world so that they can create a new tomorrow within themselves.
Ari [00:14:44] Well, so. So let's talk about just a couple of actionable ways. So you're saying focus on yourself to be present. Do you have a technique or a tool that somebody can take away right now and use to do that more appropriately? Because you can say something like be more present with yourself. But a lot of people really don't know how to do that.
Kyle [00:17:46] That really probably should be a foundational piece for everybody. You know, it's just not breathing properly, whether you want it to come to a breathing course or whether you just want it getting to your body and breathe a little bit more. I mean, that's how I started. But a lot of anxiety and depression is when I was between my late teens, early 20s and most of it. There's a number of factors, but most of it was because I just lived in my head. So I force myself out of my head, were very heads orientated culture or cultures. So I had to force myself out of my head. One of the ways I did that was just bringing my attention back to my breathing and feeling what it what it would feel like in my party, being aware of the tensions. Being aware that the feelings, just observing them are not. I didn't I hadn't read anything to to encourage me to do that. I've just sort of naturally did that. So but that I would say is that would be my number one.
Resources and Links
- https://CreateANewTomorrow.com
- https://www.facebook.com/arigronich
- https://energyflowcoaching.com/
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-davies-b5b59715/?originalSubdomain=uk
Full Transcription
Ari&Kyle1.mp3
Ari [00:00:01] Has it occurred to you that the systems we live by are not designed to get results. We pay for procedures instead of outcomes, focusing on emergencies rather than preventing disease and living a healthy lifestyle. For over 25 years, I've taken care of Olympians, Paralympians, A-list actors and Fortune 1000 companies. If I did not get results, they did not get results. I realized that while powerful people who controlled the system want to keep the status quo. If I were to educate the masses, you would demand change. So I'm taking the gloves off and going after the systems as they are. Join me on my mission to create a new tomorrow as a chat with industry experts. Elite athletes thought leaders and government officials about how we activate our vision for a better world. We may agree and we may disagree, but I'm not backing down.
Ari [00:00:50] I'm Ari Gronich and this is. Create a new tomorrow podcast.
Ari [00:01:00] And welcome back to another episode of Create a New Tomorrow.
Ari [00:01:04] This is your host, Ari Gronich, and I am here with Kyle Davies. He is a chartered psychologist, therapist, coach, trainer, author. Is the creator of Energy Flow Coaching, which is a framework for tapping in our innate ability to attain optimum health, wellbeing, creativity, clarity and mind. You know, Kyle and I have have been friends for a long time. I was on his show. I don't know many, many eons ago. And it's so good to have him with us. Kyle, why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself and how you became who you are?
Kyle [00:01:44] It's great to be back. It it's great to see you again, I should say. Thanks for having me on the show. And so a little bit about me. I mean, as you said, I'm a psychologist by trade. And I I guess I've done a few things, really. I started out my career in business consulting, doing various things, kind of moved into healthcare. I was just really interested in getting into people, I suppose, in business consulting. You working with an individual in their role. Sydney, 20 odd years ago when I started doing that. Where is I wanted to get a little bit deeper. I wanted to help people make transformations and make kind of profound changes in their lives. So I went and did lots of therapy, training, and then got involved with a medical doctor here in the UK who had a particular interest in chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia and what medicines at the time referred to as functional symptoms and syndromes. I know that's kind of changed nowadays. There's been a variety of names over the years, but the show we work together, we we evolved a process which is a mind body process and backing this beauty to thousands. Really back in those days, there wasn't huge acceptance, I suppose, of the notion of mind body approaches. There was there was in the kind of the spiritual world, but certainly in mainstream things are very much viewed as a separate mind or mental and physical body. And so we were looking at these kinds of health challenges from a perspective that, well, a body and brain that's in a perpetual state of stress ultimately breaks down and leads to a series of symptoms. And it could be quite a wide range of symptoms.
Kyle [00:03:27] So since I've been in that world for the most part and since then, really, I I've I do corporate work as well now because the whole kind of idea of wellbeing in the last few years is as developed within organizations. And I think there is this ignition that's to, you know, in order to have people be engaged and productive, ideally, they need to be have a sense of purpose, have a sense of meaning and be reasonably happy. So at the moment, my working life comprises both a combination of private therapy, work, working with sufferers of chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, irritable bowel anxiety, depression, and then the corporate work where I'm accommodation of kind of coaching workshops, where I'm helping people, I suppose, get the best out of themselves. And as you said in that that intro, getting mental clarity really to be able to help people kind of perform effectively. So that's a bit of a nutshell of where I was and where I am now.
Ari [00:04:31] Yeah, absolutely. You know, it sounds like you're doing some amazing things and you're in you're in Wales, correct? I'm in Wales. OK. So Wales is different than the US, obviously. And, you know, some of the things that that I have found as I've been teaching and training people in other countries is that the systems are so different. And it you know, it's hard. I wrote my course for the U.S. market. And when I was teaching somebody who was in the UK. It was very different because of the National Health Service, you know, and and some of those things. What are some of the the challenges and problems that you've had to face and some of the benefits that you've been able to to have from the system of in the UK?
Kyle [00:05:26] I think in terms of challenges, probably the major thing is that because of the National Health Service, despite the national. The idea in principle, I think being brilliant is that everybody gets health care. The downside of it is that people become reasonably passive in relation to health care. So whereas in the US. From what I understand, you can you can select your primary care physician, whereas in the UK, if somebody has a problem, they immediately go to their GP and if they want to see a specialist, they need to be referred from their GP. And whatever problem the person has, they will go to their GP. And again, because the way that's paid for is if your unemployed person. A proportion of your income is taken every month before you can see it. So it's almost kind. This is always a feeling that health care is free. So I think what the you know, the kind of end result of that for people like me is that there is possibly a or historically there's been a reluctance to go outside of the national health and pay for treatments. But also there's nothing else to say because because people automatically follow that route. There is a tendency to be reasonably passive when approaching health care. So those are probably the sort of the the downsides, I would say, of the healthcare system over here. Say, I think it's great because it means that people get health care and don't have to worry about that. And certainly in Wales, it's even to the extent that you will if you're prescribed a medication by your GP, you get that free or free university comes. It's paid for by national health. And that was one of the things that we've just had with a whole kind of Covid thing is, is that the main issue was that the main concern seemed to be that the health care service, the NHS, wouldn't be able to cope if, you know, a huge number of a huge proportion of people got ill. So that's that's the sort of the the the down side. On the plus side, as opposed to a certain extent, if that answers the question.
Ari [00:07:56] Yeah. You know, the thing that that strikes me every time I talk to anybody about National Healthcare Service versus insurance based like it is here in the US, is that really there's very little difference between the kind of care we get. It's it's more about who's paying versus based on results. There are some countries that have more of a results based versus procedure based system.
Ari [00:08:26] But in both the UK and the US, the really the difference that that I've seen is a difference in who's paying versus the difference in actual system of medicine.
Ari [00:08:42] It's kind of frustrating to me to to learn about, you know, the different countries and the different systems of healthcare.
Ari [00:08:52] You know, what are are some of the things like I ask because you have training in the mindset, but you also have training in some of the functional medicine side of things.
Kyle [00:09:04] So I don't actually know that I'm not trained in functional medicine stuff.
Ari [00:09:08] OK. So you're addressing the stress of anxiety and chronic fatigue through a mindset approach?
Kyle [00:09:16] I'm addressing it from a perspective of what I suppose you could say. It's function. I'm not a trained functional practitioner, but I'm I'm approaching it. I suppose there are some fundamental pieces. So I'm approaching it from a perspective that stress is is basically the underpinning cause. But I'm looking at stress, not from a psychological perspective, but from a perspective that the stress response in the body is largely the same, regardless of the stress. So that could mean that the environment, be it something physical, something emotional, stress response, is pretty much the same. And that's, I suppose, the basic tenets of my approach.
Kyle [00:09:55] So I'm looking at it like, OK, so you could have a car accident, you could fall down a flight of stairs, you can have a really bad diet. You could lose a job. You can have a bad case of flu, there's any you know, you could be sleeping really badly. All of those things trigger their stress. And I'm looking at it in a very simplified, practical way. But the idea that, well, they're all they are all going to trigger stress at some level in the body. And it's the the combined impact of all of those things that will then results in the production of symptoms. All the bodies of body and brain stress response being stuck on the idea of that will, when the stress response is stuck on that causes a an impact or causes the systems of the bottom to be dysfunctional. So you or two Dabic nervous system, the immune system, that endocrine system, they will kind of out of whack. So that's that's the principle of it. And it's looking at from a perspective of what they're kind of pillars of health. So we need to really look at our sleep.
Kyle [00:11:00] We need to look at our nutrition. We need to look at our movement fundamentally. For me, I think I see emotion as being the biggest piece. But I'm not looking at emotion from a cognitive perspective as such. I'm looking at an emotion as being, you know, this complex physiological process that affects basically all of the body and all of the brain. So I'm trying to break down the barriers of the kind of the mind polity that. All right. Well, this person deals with mental stuff. This person is with physical stuff. So I recognize that some level well, there's organic things in the body and there are things you could talk about with mindset. But in terms of impact, does it say for me what's missing, especially when you're looking at emotion, you're looking at something which is a mind body process. So in terms of the work that I do, yes, I do look at sleep. I do look at nutrition. I do look at exercise. I find for the most part those those are reasonably tangible. And it's not that they're an easy fix, but they are tangible and that, you know, you can give step by step procedures, whether it's when it comes to emotion. Emotion is is deep. It's tricky. There are spiritual aspects to that because it connects to, well, who am I? My sense of me and how I relate to life, my identity, so much of my work is about getting into that that deeper side of things. So I try to view it is to a certain extent it's functional because I'm looking at it from a holistic perspective. But as I say, probably the focus and it can be because of where I come from. But my belief is that the biggest contributory factors to the conditions I'm working with are unprocessed, blocked or imbalanced emotion.
Ari [00:12:52] You know that that's a thing that, as you know, I've I've worked with emotional release, somatic body work for a long time. And it's probably some of my favorite work is the issues are in the tissues. Let's get it out of the tissues. The number one cause of all diseases is stress. And it's, I think, considered the third or fourth contributing cause of death, but it contributes to all other diseases as well. So, you know, here, here's the thing. We're going to end the call. But I end this always asking three actionable steps that somebody can take right now who's listening to shift their health, to shift their world so that they can create a new tomorrow within themselves.
Kyle [00:13:41] Three actual steps. I think that's what we know, is that changing behavior is quite tough and people tend to behave at an unconscious pattern. I think the probably the the most important things are being more present, paying attention to oneself a little bit more and how and how you feel knowing that. All right. Well, actually, I feel is quite important, really. And so I need to let myself feel we live in a very externally focused culture where we block how we feel. So that that's that's probably the that's the major thing is I'll allow what you feel. Recognize that putting yourself first is not being selfish. So I'm honoring what you feel. Speaking and acting from your truth, not your view. And that is what will self self first is not selfish. So. I didn't get the last three, but those are the kinds of things really. Without going into much deeper stuff.
Ari [00:14:44] Well, so. So let's talk about just a couple of actionable ways. So you're saying focus on yourself to be present. Do you have a technique or a tool that somebody can take away right now and use to do that more appropriately? Because you can say something like be more present with yourself. But a lot of people really don't know how to do that.
Kyle [00:15:08] No, they don't. I suppose the thing that I start with my clients is this coming what I had on the back of this as well, something I start on with my clients is just having them breathing in in a conscious or optimal way, which is I am not looking because breathing in the work that I do is is a foundation rather than a it's a you know, it's it's meant to pull people back into their body. It's not meant as a tool to alleviate symptoms. So I don't I'm not looking for any kind of complex behavior patterns. You know, if people want to do yoga. Breath work, Brilliant. What I have people do say we'll just come back into your body at various times through the day as you catch your attention or you can set something on your watch and just pay attention to your breathing and feel yourself towards a natural rhythmic breathing for yourself. Ideally, a little bit slower and a little bit deeper. Now, that could be you. You breathe in for a count of three and out four to five. I never if I'm never in favor of forcing something. So that's comfortable breathing from the balance of a slower, deeper way. That's a brilliant way of beginning to come into the party. So he is. So that's. So that's. That would be one thing. He isn't just a little bit in terms of the way I work with the idea of tools and techniques.
Kyle [00:16:30] It tends to be the case that people, in my experience, always revert back to what they normally do because their behavior is unconsciously driven. If people stop doing it too little technique, very often they'll do it for a little bit and then they'll stop and they'll either revert back to what they were doing before or the brain. It's in its attempt to seek novelty will look for the next thing. What I try to do it is what I do is have more understanding. If people can understand where the nature of their experience comes from, what gives rise to my construction of reality, what gives rise to my buy mood or gives rise to my feelings? Where does all that come from? When people begin to understand all that, they can then adjust themselves because they begin to have read, have realizations and insight into. All right. I can begin to see how I'm creating that for myself. Now, in doing that, I find that people can naturally adjust rather than having a will give me a tool or a technique. Now, there are kind of little tools and exercises as part of what I do with people, but I've just kind of given that as a as a foundational principle. That's kind of one of the ideas for breathing. I mean, you can't go wrong, can you, in terms of that?
Kyle [00:17:46] That really probably should be a foundational piece for everybody. You know, it's just not breathing properly, whether you want it to come to a breathing course or whether you just want it getting to your body and breathe a little bit more. I mean, that's how I started. But a lot of anxiety and depression is when I was between my late teens, early 20s and most of it. There's a number of factors, but most of it was because I just lived in my head. So I force myself out of my head, were very heads orientated culture or cultures. So I had to force myself out of my head. One of the ways I did that was just bringing my attention back to my breathing and feeling what it what it would feel like in my party, being aware of the tensions. Being aware that the feelings, just observing them are not. I didn't I hadn't read anything to to encourage me to do that. I've just sort of naturally did that. So but that I would say is that would be my number one.
Ari [00:18:43] Awesome. So, you know, when I used to do a lot of corporate gigs, I would talk to people about standing up and breathing, because if you're sitting down and breathing, your diaphragm is cutting off your lung capacity by about 50 percent. And so you're only drawing in so much nutrients, so much oxygen, so much that you can process and use for brain health, which is why people go to work and get brain fog a lot. And so if you stand up and extend your torso, all of a sudden you're taking your lungs off of your diaphragm and you're able to do full belly breaths. And that brings more oxygen, more nutrients to the cells, more oxygen and nutrients to your brain, which then makes you a little clearer, a little more cognitive and have the ability to handle stress at a much deeper level. So that is a fantastic. You know, piece of tool for for the listeners. And, you know, I'll have to have you on again. We're gonna do this again. Thank you so much for being here. Kyle, where where can people who want to get a hold of you. Get a hold of you? What's what's some information that they can check in with you?
Kyle [00:19:57] My Web site is energycoaching.com. My I'm on social media, on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn and energy flow coaching,.
Ari [00:20:08] Energyflowcoaching.com.
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