This week we diverge from our regular method, and I welcome a an incredibly special person to talk with me about the themes of this project. This is part one of our conversation. We spoke, as we must during a pandemic, over the phone, about what it means to mother when you don't have biological children of your own. We also explore themes of intention and potential, unlearning efficiency, and a concept she terms "self-attachment." Karlene Kantner is a master of mindfulness; it's an approach she takes to every person and every thing she encounters. She may be my younger sister, but I look up to her every day. Savor this one with me, dear listener, and be sure to catch the second half of our reflections next week.