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Ep 67 - Weaving Together Matauranga Māori and Western Science, with Desna Whaanga-Schollum

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Introducing Desna Whaanga-Schollum

Aotearoa New Zealand is founded on a bicultural foundation... Which then begs many questions, including: "How do we weave together Western ideas and Mātauranga Māori?"


As a designer and communicator connected to her Māori whakapapa, Desna Whaanga-Schollum is well-placed to answer the qustion. She works closely with tangata whenua to bring forward their stories to reinvigorate Mātauranga Māori for the benefit of all New Zealanders.


We hear about what deep listening looks like when serving Māori communities, and why it's so important to listen before bringing solutions. After all; we have to know what the roots of the problem are first!


In today's episode you'll learn:

  • What is deep listening and how can we bring it into everything we do in life and work?
  • The risks of using Māori words outside their original context (and other options available to respectfully use te reo Māori)
  • How Pakeha can take a sensitive and empathetic approach to Māori peers in the workplace.

    • Resources mentioned in this episode:

    • The Learning Lab

    • Being Tangata Tiriti.

    • Ngā Aho - Māori Design Professionals.

    • Connect with Desna on Linkedin.

    • Hui-te-ana-nui: Understanding kaitiakitanga in our marine environment.

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