We enter a challenging world depending on our mothers. Then journey to realise ourselves as individuals. The young person making their own choices, even if they're "dumb" or seem dumb to others. The mother, here a single parent, concerned to protect, yet fearing losing her boys. In this conversation, Mel and her son Hakan share some of the challenges they have worked through. Her counsellor's words: "Be kind. Be there. But wait." And Hakan's recognising "the most important relationship you'll ever have in your life."