In this episode, we sit down with Mark & Emma — the duo behind the gyms Tim works at — for our very first interview. It’s the real story behind the shiny surface: leaving safe careers, backing themselves when it didn’t make sense on paper, and building a culture that actually cares.

We talk sliding-door moments (including the deal that fell through and opened a better door), the three-day wait after Mark’s cancer diagnosis and how it reset priorities, and what it looks like to keep showing up while fitting out a new club, doing chemo, and raising three kids. There’s belief and mindset too — from Thailand psychics and angel cards to the power of backing your gut — plus the partnership piece: why choosing your life partner might be the single most important decision you make.

This one’s equal parts laughs and depth — a reminder that the journey matters more than the destination, and community is everything.

We unpack:
– Leaving the “safe” path: sparky & PT → owners
– Sliding doors: when a ‘no’ becomes the best ‘yes’
– Cancer, perspective, and deciding to keep going
– Culture > everything: how their clubs feel different
– Belief & mindset (manifestation, angel cards, trusting your gut)
– Parenting three kids while opening more gyms
– Partnership, values, and growing together

Quote of the episode:
“If you risk nothing, you’re actually risking everything.”

If this one hits home, send it to someone who’s on the fence about a big leap — they might need to hear it today.

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