Blue Collar Business Podcast

Ep. 70 - Systems, Schools & Screwups: Real Talk for Blue Collar Growth


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The jump from “busy” to “built” is where most blue collar shops stall. We open the hood on that leap, talking through the real costs of scaling past $1M: quality wobbling under volume, crews chasing equipment, cash flow stretched by 90-day waits, and owners buying back time with chaos. The fix isn’t a secret playbook, it’s simple systems, written approvals, and leadership that others can follow when you’re not on site.

Sy sits down with operators and educators who have lived the hits: getting burned on GC change orders, learning to say “email me that approval,” and rebuilding margins without burning bridges. We unpack why documentation matters more than bravado, how to point to the bid set without sounding defensive, and where confidence and clarity protect both relationships and profit. Along the way, we celebrate a public-school heavy equipment program that’s the model everyone asks for but rarely builds; students running dozers, installing silt fence, pulling real permits, fixing real mistakes, and walking into city offices with competence and connections.

We also dive into transparent coaching and the Dirt to Dollars philosophy: answer the ten context questions before you give advice, share the ugly alongside the wins, and teach owners to step off the machine and into pricing, scheduling, and cash discipline. If you’re stuck in the mud, mentally, financially, or operationally, mourn the hit, then choose a plan. Hard work is the baseline; the leverage is systems, written change orders, and relationships that compound. Whether you’re an employee hungry to level up or an owner tempted to grab the controls again, you’ll leave with practical steps to protect your margins, grow your team, and build a legacy in people, not just projects.

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