Cuff and Mo sit down with plus size pageant queen Katrina Harvey to discuss what life is like as a black pageant queen. Katrina talks about how she actually got started in the pageant world and the initial hurdles she had to overcome internally. She also details what it means to be considered plus size in the industry and her perspective on the rise of the body positivity movement. Harvey, a Chicago native, talks about all the steps she took to lose weight before ultimately opting for surgery. She details how The Vision Lab Podcast has inspired her to start her own podcast as well as participating in a soon to be released documentary. She wraps up by talking about how she wants to see more women like her in the pageant world and the responsibility she has to be an example to other women who might want to follow in her footsteps.