When we invited our guest Matt L. Roar of IG's @matsurfingsocietyofny our intent was to learn about the nuances of getting majorly barreled on an inflation device that looks like a pillow. We got all that but we were not expecting our guest to share his life of non-stop creative output most recently with the band Golden West Service, his lines of poetry and a forthcoming book that deals with friendship, male identity and intimacy. And yes, we get into the problem with sexism in surf. It's a deep episode. Tune in. Music credit: Golden West Service goldenwestservice.bandcamp.com/