In this episode, Katie explores the concept of the 'fertile void,' a transitional phase in life where we find ourselves in a bit of  a limbo –no longer who we were but not yet who we are becoming. She discusses the emotional challenges associated with this period, including feelings of loneliness and disconnection, and emphasizes the importance of embracing change as a natural part of life. Through personal anecdotes and reflections on motherhood, identity, and the wisdom of aging, Katie encourages listeners to find joy and meaning in the process of transformation.

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