We welcome Rick Copeland from That's So Fringy podcast (https://thatssofringypodcast.com/) to talk about what's gone wrong with how to do "church". So much man-made traditions and ideas have been added, that the body of Christ, in most cases, struggles to operate with the freedom it was meant to have with Christ as its only functional head, not hampered by hierarchies and constraints, but instead, an "every member functioning/open participatory meetings" type of gathering.  Foundational to understanding what has gone wrong is the book by Frank Viola and George Barna, Pagan Christianity (https://paganchristianity.org/) and Frank's follow-up books on organic church (https://www.frankviola.org/2010/01/11/what-is-an-organic-church-a-plea-for-clarity/)

Please consider supporting our podcast; for Luke and I to create 4 episodes a month takes an average of 40 hours to research, record, and produce, sometimes more. If you find value in our work and would like to help support us, please choose from the options below. Thanks very much!! -Luke and Pete

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Paypal: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.paypal.me/peteohlinger⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Cash App: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://cash.app/$PeteOhlinger⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Venmo: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://venmo.com/u/Pete-Ohlinger⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Feel free to contact us with any questions or comments for the show!

Email us at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠      ⁠

⁠⁠We’d love to hear from you! Thanks for listening- we appreciate each and every one of you out there. Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe, and tell your friends and family about the show, and leave us a five-star review, which helps to spread the show to others!

Original Music by BassManPete

Cover art is of Mt. Hermon, site of the Watcher's descent, photo credit: By Almog - Own work, Public Domain, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=2181987⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and beautifully crafted into our logo by graphic designer Christine Forster (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/GfxChristine00?s=20⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠)