What Did He Mean by That?

🎙 Episode Title: Who Is the Jesus We’re Actually Following?

📅 Release Date: January 8th, 2026

🎧 Host(s): Dr. Christopher Cali, Pastor Chris Heimerle, Ashley Cali, and Robby Mckinney.

Episode Summary:

In this episode of What Did He Mean By That?, the cast kicks off a brand new series titled “Who Is This Jesus?” by tackling a crucial question: Do we actually know the Jesus we say we follow? Using John 5 and the healing at the Pool of Bethesda as a foundation, the conversation explores how even the most religious people of Jesus’ day failed to recognize Him. From there, the discussion moves into modern parallels, including faith deconstruction, misplaced rules, and how misconceptions about Jesus can distort worship, discipleship, and personal faith. The cast also dives into how wisdom principles can quietly turn into unbiblical rules, why many young people walk away from the church, and how apologetics, Scripture, and honest conversations can help cultivate a genuine relationship with Christ.

Key Discussion Points:

· Why the religious leaders in John 5 failed to recognize Jesus

· The danger of misrepresenting Jesus through cultural assumptions

· How false views of Jesus lead to false worship

· Deconstruction: when it’s harmful and when it can be healthy

Takeaways:

1. You cannot know the true Jesus apart from Scripture

2. Worship is distorted when Jesus is misunderstood

3. Many people deconstruct a faith they never truly had

4. Faith must become personal, not inherited

Resources & Next Steps:

💒 Get Involved: Support your local church and its mission

🎧 Listen & Subscribe: ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcast⁠⁠⁠ | YouTube

📩 Questions or Feedback? ⁠⁠⁠Contact us!⁠⁠⁠

🗒️ Digital Notes: Notes

🔔 Follow us on social media: ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠YouTube⁠