What Did He Mean by That?

🎙 Episode Title: Who Did Jesus Say He Was?

📅 Release Date: January 15th, 2026

🎧 Host(s): Dr. Christopher Cali, Pastor Chris Heimerle, Ashley Cali, and Robby Mckinney.

Episode Summary:

In this episode, we dive headfirst into one of the most provocative and unavoidable claims in Christianity: Jesus didn’t just teach about God, He claimed to be God. Through a wide-ranging conversation, we unpack different approaches to apologetics, why the Bible doesn’t try to “prove” God’s existence, and how reason, history, and Scripture work together to support the Christian faith. The discussion builds toward the central issue of the first-century church and still today: the Trinity and the authority of Jesus.

Key Discussion Points:

· General Revelation and Human Accountability: Creation andreason point toward God, but they don’t lead to salvation apart from Scripture.

· Historical Reliability of the Bible: Why the Bible stands upas a credible historical document, even by secular standards.

· The Resurrection as the Turning Point: Jesus’ resurrection isnot symbolic or optional; it is central to Christianity’s truth claims.

· Why Apologetics Have Limits: Evidence can strengthen faith, but salvation ultimately requires the work of the Holy Spirit.

Takeaways:

1. Faith is not irrational. Christianity stands up to reason, evidence, and history

2. Apologetics can point toward truth, but only God can change the heart

3. The resurrection is not just meaningful, it’s foundational

4. The Trinity isn’t a side doctrine; it’s the core issue of who Jesus is

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What Did He Mean by That?

🎙 Episode Title: Who Is the Jesus We’re Actually Following?

📅 Release Date: January 8th, 2026

🎧 Host(s): Dr. Christopher Cali, Pastor Chris Heimerle, Ashley Cali, and Robby Mckinney.

Episode Summary:

In this episode of What Did He Mean By That?, the cast kicks off a brand new series titled “Who Is This Jesus?” by tackling a crucial question: Do we actually know the Jesus we say we follow? Using John 5 and the healing at the Pool of Bethesda as a foundation, the conversation explores how even the most religious people of Jesus’ day failed to recognize Him. From there, the discussion moves into modern parallels, including faith deconstruction, misplaced rules, and how misconceptions about Jesus can distort worship, discipleship, and personal faith. The cast also dives into how wisdom principles can quietly turn into unbiblical rules, why many young people walk away from the church, and how apologetics, Scripture, and honest conversations can help cultivate a genuine relationship with Christ.

Key Discussion Points:

· Why the religious leaders in John 5 failed to recognize Jesus

· The danger of misrepresenting Jesus through cultural assumptions

· How false views of Jesus lead to false worship

· Deconstruction: when it’s harmful and when it can be healthy

Takeaways:

1. You cannot know the true Jesus apart from Scripture

2. Worship is distorted when Jesus is misunderstood

3. Many people deconstruct a faith they never truly had

4. Faith must become personal, not inherited

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What Did He Mean by That?

🎙 Episode Title: Where Is Our Hope When the Darkness Hits?

📅 Release Date: December 25th, 2025

🎧 Host(s): Dr. Christopher Cali, Pastor Chris Heimerle, Ashley Cali, and Robby Mckinney.

Episode Summary:

In this episode of What Did He Mean By That?,we reflect on the weekend message at Northside Church, focusing on how God’s promises break through darkness. Using the imagery of the rainbow, Advent prophecy, and the titles of Christ, the conversation explores how grace is often most visible in difficult moments. The discussion moves from theology to everyday life, touching on the humanity of Jesus, the sufficiency of Scripture, faith in uncertain times, church unity amid disagreement, and where people place their hope when stability feels shaken. The episode also looks at Christ as the Prince of Peace, the nature of His kingdom, and how believers experience His rule and reign both now and in the future.

Key Discussion Points:

· Why do we often recognize God’s grace more clearly during hardship than during comfort?

· Why is it important to remember that Jesus was fully human as well as fully divine?

· What does it mean that our hope is found in a person, not in circumstances or systems?

Takeaways:

1. God’s grace is often most visible when life feelsdarkest.

2. Hope is not found in circumstances, systems, or success, but in Jesus Himself.

3. Jesus understands human suffering because He fully entered it without sin.

4. Scripture is sufficient to guide faith, life, and obedience today.

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What Did He Mean by That?

🎙 Episode Title: Obedience Without the Whole Picture?

📅 Release Date: December 18th, 2025

🎧 Host(s): Dr. Christopher Cali, Pastor Chris Heimerle, Ashley Cali, and Robby Mckinney.

Episode Summary:

In this episode of What Did He Mean By That?,we sit down together to reflect on this past weekend’s message and wrestle out loud with what it means to follow God when life doesn’t go according to plan. Using the story of Joseph, we talk candidly about disrupted expectations, emotional shock, and the tension between grace and obedience.

Key Discussion Points:

· God Often Disrupts Before He Explains
Joseph experiences confusion and emotional shock before God brings clarity. What does faith look like in that gap?

· Obedience Does Not Require Full Understanding
Joseph obeys with limited information. How do we struggle with obedience when we don’t know the outcome?

· Turning Outward Instead of Inward
Pain and disappointment tempt us to spiral inward. Joseph models compassion and care even in uncertainty.

Takeaways:

1. God often moves before He explains.

2. Obedience rarely requires full clarity.

3. Faithfulness matters even when unseen.

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What Did He Mean by That?

🎙 Episode Title: The Extraordinary Invading the Ordinary?

📅 Release Date: December 11th, 2025

🎧 Host(s): Dr. Christopher Cali, Pastor Chris Heimerle, Ashley Cali, and Robby Mckinney.

Episode Summary:

In this episode, we dive into the theme of "The Extraordinary Invading the Ordinary," kicking off our Christmas series. The conversation explores how God works through ordinary people to accomplish extraordinary things. Using examples like Mary, the mother of Jesus, as well as biblical figures like Moses, Noah, and David, we emphasize that it is God’s grace and design, not human merit, that makes a life impactful. The discussion encourages listeners to embrace their ordinary lives while allowing God to work through them in extraordinary ways.

Key Discussion Points:

· God works through ordinary people: The extraordinary is not in us, but in God working through our ordinary lives.

· Ordinary actions have eternal impact: Faithfulness in your job, church service, and daily life allows God to work through you.

· The contrast of ordinary and extraordinary: God uses normal, everyday circumstances to bring about incredible results.

Takeaways:

1. You are ordinary, God is extraordinary – Your life doesn’t need to be flashy for God to work through you.

2. Faithfulness in the everyday matters – Doing your job well, serving others, and living faithfully are ways God accomplishes His purposes.

3. Grace is unearned – God’s favor isn’t based on merit; it’s a gift to all who trust Him.

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What Did He Mean by That?

🎙 Episode Title: Should We Take Shortcuts to Reach God’s Will?

📅 Release Date: December 4th, 2025

🎧 Host(s): Dr. Christopher Cali, Pastor Chris Heimerle, Ashley Cali, and Robby Mckinney.

Episode Summary:

In this episode, we dive into the story of David and hisdecision not to unlawfully seize the throne. We explore God’s sovereignty, the timing of His plans, and the importance of integrity and character in making life decisions. Rather than obsessing over “finding God’s will,” the conversation emphasizes walking faithfully according to God’s commands, avoiding sinful shortcuts, and understanding how patience and trust shape our journey. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their choices, discern their desires, and ensure their actions align with the character God is shaping in them.

Key Discussion Points:

· David’s Patience and Trust: David didn’t take the throne by force or manipulation; he trusted God’s timing.

· Character Over Outcome: Decisions should reflect integrity,not just a desire to achieve a goal.

· Sinful vs. God-Given Shortcuts: Not all shortcuts are bad; thefocus is on avoiding sinful or impulsive actions.

Takeaways:

1. How do you discern between a God-given opportunity and a sinful shortcut?

2. Can waiting and patience be seen as part of spiritual growth?

3. In what ways does integrity shape the outcomes of your decisions?

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What Did He Mean by That?

🎙 Episode Title: How Do You Become a Jonathan in Someone Else’s Life?

📅 Release Date: November 27th, 2025

🎧 Host(s): Dr. Christopher Cali, Pastor Jeremy Cali, Ashley Cali, and Robby Mckinney.

Episode Summary:

In this episode, we explore the incredible loyalty of Jonathan a man who loved David selflessly, not for personal gain, but because he desired to honor God. Even though Jonathan could have claimed the throne for himself, he chose to step aside and celebrate God’s plan, showing what it looks like to put God’s will above personal ambition. We discuss how his faith, courage, and sacrificial friendship can inspire us to live selflessly and serve others in alignment with God’s purposes.

Key Discussion Points:

· How does Jonathan’s loyalty to David reflect loyalty to God?

· How can we practice selflessness when it conflicts with our own desires?

· How can we celebrate others’ success even when it costs us personally?

· Who can you be a “Jonathan” to this week?

Takeaways:

1. Loyalty flows from God, not personal gain. Jonathan loved David because he honored God’s plan.

2. Selflessness requires letting go of what we want. True faith often means putting God’s will above our own ambitions.

3. Celebrate others’ God-given success. Joy in someone else’s blessings reflects maturity and obedience.

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What Did He Mean by That?

🎙 Episode Title: Bitterness, Distance, and the Heart?

📅 Release Date: November 20th, 2025

🎧 Host(s): Pastor Kip Gingrich, Pastor Chris Heimerle, Cara Heimerle, and Robby Mckinney.

Episode Summary:

In this episode, the team sits down with Pastor Kip to unpack his weekend message from 1 Samuel, focusing on the broken relationship between David and Michal. What began as love and loyalty eventually decayed into bitterness, distance, and a hardened heart. Together, the conversation explores how this same slow drift can happen in marriages and friendships and what it looks like to return, rebuild, and recenter our lives on Him.

Key Discussion Points:

· What distractions pull us away from the people we love?

· Why is pride dangerous in relationships?

· How can we avoid expecting others to give us what only God can?

Takeaways:

1. Bitterness doesn't appear instantly — it forms slowly over time through neglect, distraction, and drifting priorities.

2. Distance in a relationship is often spiritual before it’s relational. When God becomes less central, everything else follows.

3. Unrealistic expectations of people will always disappoint. Only God can provide unfailing love, security, and identity.

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What Did He Mean by That?

🎙 Episode Title: Ambition on the Wrong Wall?

📅 Release Date: November 13th, 2025

🎧 Host(s): Dr. Christopher Cali, Pastor Chris Heimerle, Ashley Cali, and Robby Mckinney.

Episode Summary:

In this week’s episode, we dive deeper into the story of David and Saul from 1 Samuel, exploring the difference between godly ambition and selfish ambition. Saul’s jealousy and hunger for power stand in stark contrast to David’s humble trust in God’s timing a lesson that challenges all of us to check what wall our ladder is leaning against. From careers and parenting to ministry and marriage, the hosts reflect on how ambition can either honor God or subtly become an idol that pulls our hearts away from Him. They also discuss how to identify when ambition begins to harm our relationships with God, our spouse, or our kids and how repentance, communication, and faith can realign our hearts.

Key Discussion Points:

· Ambition isn’t sinful — selfish ambition is: God gives us desires and drive, but they must be directed toward His purposes.

· Selfish ambition often costs relationships: sometimes at home before it shows up at work.

· Faith over striving: Trust that God can open doors your effort never could.

Takeaways:

1. What’s an area of your life where ambition is strongest right now? How can you tell if it’s godly or selfish?

2. Who (or what) might be getting “stepped on” in your pursuit of success?

3. How can you invite your spouse, kids, or close friends into your ambitions rather than making them compete with them?

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What Did He Mean by That?

🎙 Episode Title: Rising Above Toxic Relationships?

📅 Release Date: November 6th, 2025

🎧 Host(s): Dr. Christopher Cali, Pastor Chris Heimerle, Ashley Cali, and Robby Mckinney.

Episode Summary:

In this episode, the team continues the conversation from the weekend message, Navigating Toxic Relationships.They look at how David’s relationship with Saul teaches us to live above relational toxicity through humility and a right relationship with God. From fear and pride to humility and peace, the discussion dives deep into how our faith anchors us even when relationships with others become difficult and what it means to respond like David instead of reacting like Saul.

Key Discussion Points:

· Toxic Relationships and Spiritual Health: Having a rightrelationship with God doesn’t magically fix every relationship around you.

· Living Above the Toxicity: How David refused to let Saul’sbehavior dictate his peace, choosing instead to find stability in his relationship with God.

· The Power of Humility: True humility isn’t self-deprecation.It’s recognizing who we are before God, and what we’re not owed from others.

Takeaways:

1. Check your heart for selfish ambition: are you striving for success or stepping on others to reach it?

2. It’s okay and biblical to set boundaries when relationships become abusive or destructive.

3. Like David, let your relationship with God anchor you above the chaos.

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