Tearing Down High Places

EP 87 | United Methodist Church uses Charlie Kirk to Parade their wokeness.

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Show Summary

The episode of Turn Down High Places, hosted by Average Joe, Pastor Jeff, and Pastor Tim, features guest Pastor Dan Meter, a circuit pastor in Central Pennsylvania who transitioned from the United Methodist Church (UMC) to the Global Methodist Church (GMC). The discussion focuses on the assassination of Charlie Kirk, criticizing the UMC’s initial article that labeled Kirk’s rhetoric as hateful. Pastor Dan’s efforts led to partial revisions, but the hosts argue the article remains problematic. They explore Kirk’s martyrdom, the role of inflammatory rhetoric in fueling violence, and the need for Christians to uphold biblical truth in culture and politics.

Article by United Methodist Church
https://www.umnews.org/en/news/after-assassination-bishops-urge-peacemaking

Major Segments and Timestamps

Introduction and Guest Introduction (00:00:00 – 00:01:55)

  • The show begins with light banter and introduces Pastor Dan Meter, commended for leaving the UMC for the GMC due to its progressive shift, highlighting his role as a circuit pastor.

    • UMC’s Problematic Article on Kirk’s Assassination (00:01:55 – 00:04:53)

    • Pastor Dan discusses a UMC news article that originally accused Charlie Kirk of “hateful rhetoric” toward LGBTQ and racial minorities, mirroring the shooter’s language. His outreach prompted some changes, but he still finds the article unacceptable.

      • Kirk’s Martyrdom and Christian Response (00:04:53 – 00:09:54)

      • The hosts frame Kirk’s assassination as martyrdom for his faith, contrasting Christian responses like prayer vigils with the violent 2020 George Floyd protests. They argue false narratives fueled Kirk’s death, emphasizing his mainstream conservative stance.

        • Rhetoric’s Role in Violence (00:09:54 – 00:14:57)

        • The discussion critiques left-leaning rhetoric, like calling Kirk a “fascist,” for inciting violence. The hosts reject the “both sides” argument, pointing to mainstream left ideologies as drivers of division, unlike conservative values rooted in truth.

          • Kirk’s Legacy and Christian Calling (00:14:57 – 00:29:07)

          • Kirk’s impact on youth and his gospel-centered approach are highlighted, compared to figures like Ben Shapiro. The hosts urge Christians to follow Kirk’s example, using resources like Wayne Grudem’s Politics According to the Bible to engage culture.

            • Christian Worldview and Cultural Influence (00:29:07 – 00:35:51)

            • The term “Christian nationalism” is addressed cautiously, with the hosts advocating for a Christian worldview to shape society, rejecting secularism’s failures and calling the church to lead with biblical principles.

              • Challenges in Modern Churches (00:35:51 – 00:44:17)

              • Pastor Dan shares a story of an unprepared Presbyterian pastor, reflecting weak leadership in some churches. The hosts encourage confronting unbiblical teachings and supporting faithful pastors.

                • Call to Action and Closing (00:44:17 – 00:50:47)

                • The episode ends with a call to fight small battles in personal spheres, share victories, and honor faithful pastors, urging listeners to continue Kirk’s legacy of truth and evangelism.

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                  #CharlieKirk, #UMCControversy, #FaithUnderFire, #TurnDownHighPlaces, #PastorDanMeter, #GospelTruth, #ConservativeValues, #SpiritualWarfare, #ChristianWorldview, #KirkLegacy




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