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Eno Williams and Max Grunhard discuss the brilliant new Ibibio Sound Machine album, Pull the Rope, living in London and loving Ninja Tune Records, aspirational truths and the clarinet, how music is a language, Eno’s exposure to highlife and jùjú music and why openly loving Fela Kuti could be precarious, empathy, inclusion, and improvisation, intergenerational culture clashes, working with Ross Orton, upcoming tour dates, other future plans, and much more. 

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