Michelle is a seasoned paranormal investigator with Into The Shadows paranormal team and has had a long-time interest in non-human intelligences. She is currently working with the protocols established by Dr Steven Greer for contacting these types of intelligent beings, known as CE5.

They play sound recordings gathered at the sites of crop circles, use meditation and peaceful intentions to try to make peaceful contact.

We talk about how Michelle got into the paranormal, her spooky moments as an investigator and how her work with CE5 is growing.

Join me for our fascinating chat on lifting the lid on this new way of contacting non-human entities.

Music credits

Intro/outtro music Tom Cooke

Underscore- Giant Wyrm by Kevin McCleod