Join host James Mackey and his guest Anthony Onesto, Chief People Officer at Suzy, and gain valuable insights into measuring return on investment and understanding opportunity costs. Dive into the innovative concept of viewing budgets as products and learn how this perspective can revolutionize your approach to resource allocation.

Furthermore, James and Anthony discuss the much-debated topic of performance management and share views on the problems with performance improvement plans.

Then, they steer the conversation towards the concept of 'learners vs guides' and why a balanced team, equipped with both learners and guides, can propel your organization toward its goals.

Finally, they are pulling back the curtain on recruiting strategies for Gen Z, examining the necessity of diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives to attract these candidates.


Anthony's Book: The New Employee Contract - How to Find, Keep and Elevate Gen Z Talent


   0:59 Anthony's Onesto background

11:33 Maximizing ROI and addressing objections

22:31 Rethinking performance reviews 

28:16 The problems with performance improvement plans

36:24 Learners vs Guides

42:42 Recruiting strategies for Gen Z

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