How we talk about black and brown people in America, how we talk about anyone anywhere, has a profound impact on what we do with our actions as well. We're in this together. So the question that remains is: Are we going to rise together or are we going to drag each other all down to the bottom together?

In this episode, we hear from Jeremy Courtney is the founder of Preemptive Love Coalition - an organization that exists to end war. For the past 15 years, Jeremy has served families on the frontlines of the world's biggest crises—the rise of ISIS in Iraq, civil war in Syria, and the refugee crisis on the US-Mexico border.