Welcome to Hello Trauma Brain, a podcast where I share my personal journey of living with Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (C-PTSD), and the tools and practices I'm using to heal, recover, and grow.

🎙️ In this episode, Sara Avery, executive director of the Learned Distress Removal Process, joins me to discuss why healing from complex trauma can feel so difficult, even when we're doing all the "right" things.

Sara Avery shares her 25-year journey helping people heal from complex trauma through the Learned Distress Removal Process

Sara explains what Learned Distress is, how it gets created during childhood, and why many survivors keep ending up in the same kinds of relationships and situations.

We explore the six Learned Distress types (Idealist, Perfectionist, Caregiver, Optimist, Defeatist, and Dictator) and what core well-being looks like when it's uncovered for each type.

Sara shares the story behind the development of the Learned Distress Removal Process and her collaboration with founder Mimi Herrmann.

Our conversation touches on the connection between emotional and physical health, the role of sleep in healing, how to begin accessing your core well-being, and so much more.

This episode's healing invitation encourages you to reflect on which Learned Distress patterns resonated with you and notice what comes up as you sit with this new language

Connect with Today's Guest, Sara Avery

Learned Distress Removal Process website: https://www.LearnedDistress.com

Free Learned Distress Type Report: https://LearnedDistress.com/SQ/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/saraavery_ldr_process/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LearnedDistress

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LearnedDistress

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sara.avery?lang=en

📖 Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Healing from Trauma

09:34 The Connection Between Emotional and Physical Health

12:18 The Role of Sleep in Healing 15:31 The Process of Change in Trauma Recovery

18:22 Understanding Learned Distress

21:20 Resistance to Change in Trauma Work

24:24 Core Well-Being vs. Learned Distress

27:21 The Impact of Early Experiences on Trauma

29:50 Survival Mechanisms and Trauma Responses

36:42 Understanding Learned Distress 38:13 Types of Learned Distress

46:23 The Impact of Relationships on Recovery

57:46 The Journey to Core Well-Being

01:09:35 - Healing Invitation

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Disclaimer: I'm not a licensed psychologist or mental health professional. This podcast is simply me sharing my own journey. It's not meant to replace professional care. If you think you might have Complex PTSD or any mental health condition, please reach out to a qualified provider.