Rowan and Devin answer the question, how did they dare to love again after divorce, coming out and the chaos of changing everything in their lives? How did they go from friends to lovers?

This episode has a smart car, a dog walk, a full supermoon, a plan to take it slow, a slow motion walk across the room, an apology text at 6 a.m., what Devin describes as a "rocket ride" and what Rowan says was "too far."

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