Interview Summary: Bernard Seeto – From Architect to Business LeaderGuest: Bernard Seeto https://www.linkedin.com/in/bernard-seeto/
Host: Ben Yu https://www.linkedin.com/in/ybbest/
Career Journey & Influence- Ben opens by acknowledging Bernard’s pivotal influence on his own career path, especially a memorable meeting where SharePoint development was declared “dead,” prompting Ben to pivot toward architecture.
- Bernard reflects on that moment and shares his own journey, starting as a developer working with 3GL, VB, and client-server systems, eventually transitioning into architecture through consulting and business engagement.
Why Architecture?- Bernard was drawn to architecture due to his interest in design correctness, foresight, and creating long-term value.
- He emphasizes that architecture is about making big technology decisions and acting as an insurance policy for organizations navigating rapid tech evolution.
Key Philosophies- Context is king: Bernard stresses the importance of understanding how a business operates and makes money—something he encouraged Ben to consider early in his enterprise architecture role.
- Architects must bridge technical capability with business strategy, enabling scalable and executable solutions.
Upskilling & Staying Relevant- Bernard shares his approach to staying current:
- Read McKinsey articles to track technologies moving from emerging to adopted.
- Use Gartner’s hype cycle to understand tech maturity.
- Follow platforms like InfoQ for practical insights.
- Leverage tools like ChatGPT to explore and learn faster.
- He’s not interested in tech for tech’s sake—he values applied technology that solves real problems.
Self-Awareness & Team Enablement- Bernard humbly admits he wasn’t the best developer, but his strength lay in providing context and clarity to help others make better decisions.
- He views architecture as a way to codify ambition and scale, enabling teams to execute effectively.
Staying Current & Validating Information- Bernard emphasizes that keeping up with technology trends is a team effort, not a solo task. Architects must collaborate with engineers and peers to stay informed.
- He warns against “tech for tech’s sake,” sharing an example where AI was added to a project without clear business value—echoing research showing many AI pilots fail due to lack of purpose.
- On validating information, Bernard advises:
- Don’t blindly trust any source—including McKinsey, Gartner, or AI tools like ChatGPT.
- Use multiple sources and triangulate insights.
- Run technical spikes to test hypotheses and assess real-world applicability.
- Understand the long-term implications of adopting new tech, especially regarding technical debt and risk acceptance.
Advice for Developers Breaking into Architecture- Bernard acknowledges the challenge: transitioning from individual contributor to someone who thinks broadly across business and technology.
- Key advice:
- Learn how the business operates and how it makes money.
- Understand the role of technology in enabling business models.
- Avoid the “ivory tower” trap—stay grounded and collaborate with those executing the architecture.
- Appreciate both strategic foresight and execution detail.
What’s Next for Experienced Architects?- Bernard outlines three emerging directions for seasoned architects:
- Citizen Development & Generative AI
- Business users are becoming developers via tools like ChatGPT.
- Architects must adapt to English as the new coding language and production-level experimentation by non-technical staff.
- The scope of architecture is expanding rapidly.
- Business Model Evolution
- Architects must understand how business models evolve—e.g., FinTech vs. traditional banking.
- Technology is accelerating business transformation, requiring architects to stay ahead.
- Ecosystem Architecture
- Beyond enterprise architecture, organizations must understand their role in broader ecosystems.
- Architects should design for interoperability, value exchange, and resilience across partners and platforms.
Impact of AI on Enterprise Architecture- Bernard sees AI as a transformative force:
- It democratizes development and expands the architectural landscape.
- Architects must guide responsible adoption, ensuring governance, security, and business alignment.
- The challenge is balancing innovation with structure, especially as AI tools become embedded in everyday workflows.
AI’s Expanding Role in the Stack- Bernard highlights that AI now permeates every layer of the technology stack, from infrastructure to business processes.
- Architects must understand agentic AI and its role in automation, especially in designing systems where human involvement is minimized or strategically balanced.
- The concept of a Digital Autonomous Organisation (DAO) is becoming more plausible—routine tasks handled by AI, freeing humans for creative and strategic work.
Architecture in the Age of AI- The scope of architecture is evolving:
- Architects must now design across people, process, and technology, with AI increasingly influencing all three.
- Understanding business capabilities becomes critical, as AI can now simulate or replace parts of human and process layers.
- Ben reflects on the leadership challenge: guiding organizations through this transformation as AI moves from pilot to production.
Final Thoughts from Bernard- Bernard leaves the audience with a humorous metaphor:
“Architects know 100 ways to make love, but no one to make love to.”
- The message: judgment and navigation are the architect’s true value—helping organizations find the right long-term partnerships between business and technology.
- Architecture is about creating lasting value, not chasing every shiny new tool.
Closing Message- Ben thanks Bernard for sharing his journey and insights.
- He invites other architects—solution or enterprise—to share their stories by messaging him on LinkedIn.