Rowan and Devin discuss the question what's in Devin's pants and other innapropriate things to say to a trans person. Are questions ok? Not ok? 

They talk about Dan Levy, Jodie Foster, Nava Mau, and LGBTQ+ representation at the Emmys.

Devin gets passionate about seeing the common humanity in people and they both get into chosen names, pronouns, expression and identity.

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