The Simply Vegan Podcast

Ep177. Veganuary special! Ed Winters on how to argue with meat eaters


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The Simply Vegan Podcast is bought to you by the UK’s only vegan magazine, Vegan Food & Living. Hosted by magazine editor Holly Johnson (and NEW co-host Em-J for January 2024), join us every Thursday as we chat to some of the inspirational people helping to grow the vegan movement – from chefs and influencers to athletes and doctors.


It's Veganuary – the perfect time to delve into the world of veganism! Whether you're completely new to the show or a long-time listener, we have a bumper episode for you that's packed with advice, debate and insights.


Celebrity make-up artist and all-round vegan advocate Em-J Williams joins us as co-host and we delve into her world for a while, before discussing the crazy things people said to us over Christmas (yes, breast milk IS vegan!).


And in part 2, Holly chats to activist, speaker and author Ed Winters, also known as Earthling Ed, about his new book, How To Argue With A Meat Eater (And Win Every Time). They look at the main arguments against veganism, how we can arm ourselves with information to have better debates and why 'winning' isn't necessarily what you might think.


Notes from today's show

• Em-J's favourite restaurants include What the Pitta and Omnom

• Join the Non-Judgy Vegans Facebook group

• Ed Winters' new book – How To Argue With A Meat Eater (And Win Every Time) is out now, at Waterstones and all good bookshops


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