There comes a time when pastors need to retire, and if he's the founding pastor, that's brings a new set of challenges to that local church. Mostly because they've never been there before.

While that could bring anxiety, depression, or insecurity, that's not the case for Grace.

Rick Hale has basically written the textbook on how to transfer leadership in the most gentle, generous, and logical way, the benefit is that he gave his church time to find their next Senior Pastor, Nathan Marsh.

Hailing from the great state of Kansas, Nate, Cosette, Shamonique, and Tyson, are about to make New Mexico their adopted new home - and Grace couldn't be more excited!

Listen-in to this amazing conversation Sean has with Rick and Nate.

🔔 LISTEN to the podcast NOW! https://www.roswellgrace.com/living-your-dash-podcast

▶️ WATCH Rick's Mother's Day message, here: https://youtu.be/tB-7E6C1fTw?si=ODzW3LuNzodZWc5a&t=2296

🚀 LEARN more about our series: https://www.roswellgrace.com/1545-2/

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