This Episode is the commentary of JohnChat_EP23 by NotebookLM Deep Dive. In EP23, we invite Chen You-Wen to share insights and experiences from their pilgrimage to Spain in July 2024. Unlike typical media or influencer narratives, we explore lesser-discussed aspects of the journey, focusing on the mindset shifts and mental adjustments needed along the way. Whether you're planning your own pilgrimage or simply curious, we hope this conversation offers fresh inspiration!